Am I retarded or is this shit just ridiculous. Absolutely insane sustain while outputting a great amount of damage. She also sticks to you like crazy and you can't kill her... especially if you are a tanky top laner, since will out sustain you and out damage you 100% of the time. How do you beat this?
SilverSquid7 votesCC shuts her down. Grievous wounds shut her down. She has no % scaling damage. Her CC is soft af. If she healed, she has given up nearly half her damage potential.
Early game she is still squishy. Late game she does no serious damage anymore.
Don't ge me wrong, I have played Karma top tank to a great success myself. She is annoying. She feels abusive. She is cheesy. But she is not broken.
Personally, I would love for Riot to finally make her RW heal to something more befitting of a mage/support, but then again, I have been rambling on about this for nearly 2 years now. A heal scaling with effective HP is just horribly missplaced on her.
kasfas1 votesOh god it was broken a while ago, super cancer lane, but the recent changes to her w make it more bearable.
SilverSquid1 votesYou mean the change that caused W to proc her passive only twice instead of three times?
kasfas1 votesYep, fewer R Ws because fewer instances of damage also means less healing and less cancer.
Pisces StarChild2 votesI just wanted to point out that her W still has remain unchanged in regards to damage and heal amount. They only changed the number of hits the tether applied to the target. However, the heal only proc-ed during the first and last ticks/hits, meaning she only healed two times and not three. The only change to the ability in terms of values is the damage output. They adjusted her numbers to match up with it only hitting twice but the overall damage output remains the same. The only actual nerf to the ability is how it worked with her passive, giving Karma the ability to reduce the ult's CDR three times before instead of two.
kasfas1 votesCorrect, but that in tandem leads to less healing from R W because it isn't off cooldown as often, in addition to less damage for that same reason.
LadyRenly2 votesshe doesnt get tanky for a long ass time, she spends most of the game as a squishy mage.
ShriekingAutists2 votesDownvote and respond with a Sht Meme tht makes no sense ok
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesi didnt downvote you
so you must be mistaken
ShriekingAutists2 votesLiar I have the logs
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesprove it
you are gonna call me a liar say i downvoted you etc then prove it
ShriekingAutists2 votes"9:14 - "MrFawknSunshine" --- Action --- Downvote Post , Ref. #E10459482199" I copied and pasted the log
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesooh u typed something
thats not proof
tell you what ill go downvote now just so you can be right
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
AceGeo1 votesIt's been a thing for a while. People just kinda forgot about it.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesand people cried it was broken/cancer etc cuz of her high base damage, shielding, mobility and if you get to her you cant kill her.
hence my meme above stating " dont put that evil on me" which means i dont wanna see it in lane as a top laner
rather face teemo ,kennen but it did have its place and it had some success
ZephyrDrake1 votesKarma, the champion whose damage falls off the face of the earth even while building AP is dealing too much damage while building tanky... she also needs so many items for her to become tanky... she is nothing more than a champion used for cheese strats. You want to beat her top? get 
and have your jungler gank her a few times and watch her do nothing to you the entire game while being pretty useless the entire game
