LoL is an assassin simulator.

NalleLuppaKürwa··1 votes·540 views

The thing with Riot games and their fetish for assassins is unimaginable. First they made a new item item 3147 for ad champs, then they reworked and made some new items item 3030 item 3146 item 3152 for ap and hybrid champs. and for the cherry on top of the cake, they reworked the assassins. Now what is see in game is talon, kha, rengar, and shaco on the same team all building full armor pene builds and making the tanks either do nothing in teamfights and being ripped by paper or building 4 thornmails and 2 warmogs to survive longer but not dealing any dmg. Please rito do something else with your game. NOT THIS!!!

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Astôlfo6 votes

"LoL is an assassin simulator." "fetish for assassins" "making the tanks either do nothing in teamfights and being ripped by paper"

I think we're either talking about different games, or you're drunk and have no clue what you're talking about, if you actually think current League assassins aren't complete dogshit.

NalleLuppaKürwa1 votes

Explain your opinion.

Astôlfo4 votes

Almost all the new assassins have ridiculously, absurdly long delays or otherwise massive restrictions on their burst. They can no longer instantly jump-delete a squishy target 100-0 in like 0.5-0.8 seconds. As a result, they are trash.

NalleLuppaKürwa1 votes

yeah like Khazix getting 60% out from his Q cooldown if the target is isolated? if you get 45% cdr you can use your Q at the same speed as Yasuo uses his Q

Astôlfo2 votes

"almost"

Kha'zix is silly strong at the moment.

Penns2 votes

Well most dont anymore.

Astôlfo2 votes

None of them were instant, Kha'zix is one of the exceptions right now who's silly strong, you were ridiculously fed on Katarina nor was it a 100-0 (more like an 80-0) while it was still a 2v1 against an isolated squishy, and Ezreal was fucking stupid and deserved to die in the third one for wandering out, and also completely fucked up his E.

You were saying?

Takazaki1 votes

all those kills were around a second long each is normally doesnt get any faster then that unless you're extreamly fed

also the EZ played extreamly well that game that was just about the only time i caught him out of position. that said wait the clock from the time i actualy jump on him to his death was between :33 and :34 a second or less so of time to react

Also assassin tend to get fed when doing well so pointing out me being fed on kat doesnt change much. and he was missing even without help he was dead regaurdless and he wouldnt have had more then maybe a second and a hlave to flash away form me pressing Q (takes longer because i always W after E to ensure i can chase.

your argument is "ez was bad" "a second is plenty of time to react" and " you were fed" all of which are invalid

.5 second difference on burst is negligible when considering all the assassin ( which i've played atleast) can attempt an assassination repeatedly because of lowered cooldowns

Astôlfo1 votes

A second long is not instant. A second is an extremely long time.

Yes, Rengar is a bit over the edge at the moment. But your clip has nothing to do with that. What happened in that clip was perfectly normal and fine, and it is how any assassin should be. If an ADC is enough of an idiot to wander out alone like that, they deserve to be instantly deleted in less than a second.

Takazaki1 votes

a second is extremely long? a lot of mages have windups longer then a second if i can kill syndra in the time it takes for her to press Q and and the damage from it to actually come out thats instant

anything that isnt .0 seconds long isn't instant btw so saying .5 is instant is about as valid as me saying 1 second is.

all 3 clips they died before they could react while having a majority of their HP ( ez died while reacting so just because he about able to cast E doesnt mean " thats plenty of time" he had no real way out of that except MAYBE jumping the wall)

Astôlfo1 votes

Yes, it is extremely long. So what? Mages aren't assassins. And I meant instant as in the sense that they did not die in one blow.

Your first example took 3 SEPARATE instances of damage (Jhin's health bar decreased 3 times). Your second was a 2v1 against a target with like 80% health only that still took 2 instances of damage. Your third was another that took like 2-3 instances of damage. Instantaneous would be they instantly died from 1 ability/overlapping segment of abilities. AKA, their health bar visibly decreases only ONCE.

https://youtu.be/_U5EJYKW6js?t=43s Look at this clip where Rengar deletes Tristana instantly. That is what I would call "instant". Now, this isn't the kind of burst an assassin should have. Literally not being able to react at all to the burst itself combo is bad (excluding the fact Tristana was a fucking idiot for being by herself and not pinking/immediately running or jumping or Flashing away.

https://youtu.be/_U5EJYKW6js?t=34s Now, look at this clip where Zed deletes Vayne. It was not instant. There were two separate instances of damage, and Zed successfully dodged Thresh's attempts to Flay by shadowing away. This is the kind of burst speed that is perfectly fine and acceptable, and this is what should be used as the NORM for an assassin's burst combo speed.

And in all 3 clips, the ones that died were idiots. Jhin literally could see Kha'Zix going around the side while STANDING IN FRONT OF HIS OWN DAMN FOUNTAIN and chose not to move back and eat 3 separate instances of damage. In the second one, Veigar was alone for whatever dumb reason and got caught out 2v1, 1 of which was an extremely fed assassin. In the third one, Ezreal was an idiot and got caught out alone and got deleted accordingly. What happened in each of your clips is perfectly fine and should be what is considered NORMAL, IF NOT SLOW.

Yes, Ezreal could have jumped the wall, but he jumped backwards instead while still staying in Rengar's attack range. That was his failure. And his biggest failure was wandering out alone ahead of his team when it became quickly obvious his team was only the slightest bit behind him after watching the rest of his clip. So what? He doesn't deserve a way out of that. He HAD ways out of that. But he fucked it up. So no, he deserved to die that fast.

Aptest2 votes

Riot does not have a fetish for assassins, players do. Assassins are the smallest group of champions in the game. and they have the highest popularity. The highest pick rate in low ELO. They are picked more than ADCs.

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