Assassins problems in general and new idea on how to fix.

MistroChainsaw··1 votes·773 views

One of the problems riot has been struggling with is how to get assassins in a healthy spot in the meta. They complain about assassins being able to one shot people and their being no counter play. Half the time, i feel as if that is because of people ( especially newbs) simply making a bad choice to go off alone and push a lane to far, however, they do have a little bit of a point. The other problem is a lack of ability to counter them. Originally, kassadin was meant to be an anti-mage, but grew into one of the most notorious assassins in the game. The concept however, needs to be explored more. Create an anti assassin. Some possible skills:(all would obviously not be used on the same champ)

An ult that would be similar to Shen's but would allow the used to switch places with an ally gaining their percentage health *2 (not exceeding Max health), but also gain all debuff's on that character. When used, it would apply a item 3157 effect to the ally and freeze any dubuff timers on them for the duration while the champ was TPing there. (If the ally TPed to was stunned/silenced/zed mark/fizz fish/debuffed so are you, because of debuff gain) The champ would most likely have either an anti-assassin kit (spell shield + dash)or tanky kit. The teleport would be canceled if the anti assassin champ is hit in any way so it cannot be used as an escape.

A skill that would flip all buffs/ debuffs on a champ with anothers buffs/debuffs, allowing for a fizz fish to be flipped onto him or a zed marked zed

A skill that would allow the anti-assassin to disguise as an ally on your team, like an ADC or AP mid so when they dive on you they realize you aren't squishy after all.

These are a couple of ideas for camp skill that would help them fill this new role. Please share your idea's below!

5 Comments

Flying Buntcake1 votes

I like the disguise concept a lot, but it kinda infringes on their Clarity Pillar

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

no assasins till lcs exists the main point of assasin is to kill a squish fast, so he cant run in lcccs that cant be allowed cause its not skill requiring #lcsmoney says no to assasins so rito must kneeel and .....

Seditious1 votes

Not sure I agree with this. Talon and Zed are played and considered assassins, no? I think main reason assassins are left behind is lack of team comp.

I love Diana, so let's look at her E, which pulls champs in a short area around her towards her. I had a shyvana once who would wait til I ulted into a group, E'd the enemy team, then she would ult over them. It was extremely effective, but Diana has no exit.

You say nothing of Fizz, who is an assassin, gets played regularly in LCS. He has some ability to escape, and can shred squishies, and his ult does AOE.

I don't think it's concern an assassin can 100-0 someone, I think it's LCS players deciding it's not worth risking NOT being able to 100-0 with an assassin late game and choosing someone who is more teamwork-friendly.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

talon was not touched YET riot already told that prolly they will say bb to his silence cause toxic and antifun (to most of silences anyway ) fizz already oversteped the role of an assasin into a meele mage, he does not rely on his ult, so he just spamms basic skills and deals lots of dmg to everything around zed gets removed from the game, zhonyas and stuff so its not like he is realy impactfull late, still i play him diana gets reworked and this e will become her ult prolly

I don't think it's concern an assassin can 100-0 someone

yes after all rioters jizzing all over the fact that assasins have no counterplay and gutting them one by one, this cant be the case

simply said after the nurfs assasins just compete less than other champs, mage can burst down 3 guy's and he has his entire skillset available to deal even more dmg, an assasin can possibly kill one guy fast, but he got nurfd so prolly zhonyas or qqs or mikael, then only a couple of them can actualy do something (fizz, not YET nerfed talon,possibly a rengar with his q's bbut he is also to be nerfed cause no counterplay ) and those are still viable ones

R3con341 votes

The best way to counter assassins is to build armor, health or be a tanky character. Assassins can use most of their abilities in a row; however, they become completely vulnerable to counter attack when their abilities are spent. Katarina for an example can spam q -> e -> w -> r relatively quick, but if that doesnt kill the enemy, she has nothing else to put on the field. She is squishy and relies on her spell damage. Even Ashe can destroy Katarina if she survives the initial bar-rash. This is relatively true for all champions including Kassadin . survive a bar-rash of abilities fromKassadin and return fire. You win.

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