Why is no one talking about Lissandra changes?

smoezoe·Nov 12, 2018·4 votes·1,826 views

They took off 20% off her total ap ratios , when she already does low damage just to give her a useless passive. what is the point of that??

15 Comments

SonicAFNov 12, 20183 votes

Will stop bullying toplaners. Good.

Will deal no damage with aftershock. Awesome.

Madsin25Nov 12, 20181 votes

Really? Bully top laners?

Every champ up in top lane is defined by all-inning and bullying others out of lane.

Seems kind of hypocritical you don't like it when you can't all in and not get punished for it.

SonicAFNov 12, 20181 votes

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Really? Bully top laners?

Every champ up in top lane is defined by all-inning and bullying others out of lane.

Seems kind of hypocritical you don't like it when you can't all in and not get punished for it.

There can be interactive fights, when you fight for cs and trade hp and there can be Viktor or Lissandra. Seriously...

Bootleg GayNov 12, 20182 votes

They cut her mana costs a lot too, and they said they've got hot fixes planned in case she's on the weak side. Gotta remember that she's going from a passive that did no damage, to one with a relatively high base, a decent ratio, and a slow. We'll just have to wait and see how she goes once live.

smoezoeNov 12, 20181 votes

well now she literally has no passive in solo laning AND she already has a hard time killing people. taking base damage and ap ratios off a champion who already has a hard time solo killing and giving them a passive that requires them to take someone down is pretty nonsensical.

Bootleg GayNov 12, 20181 votes

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well now she literally has no passive in solo laning AND she already has a hard time killing people. taking base damage and ap ratios off a champion who already has a hard time solo killing and giving them a passive that requires them to take someone down is pretty nonsensical.

Okay, but she doesn't even have to get an assist. She just has to be close enough to the champion that dies, so roaming, something she's good at, is a pretty essential tactic. Not to mention dueling or laning in general isn't supposed to be her strong point. You pick Lissandra for wave clear and her ability to lock someone down with ease. A point-and-click stun that damages and slows other enemies is incredibly powerful.

smoezoeNov 12, 20181 votes

have u watched any gameplay of it ? its entirely useless the enemy team decides to stand still and cluster

Moody PNov 12, 20181 votes

useless? it's a very solid passive

there's not much use talking about such big changes until we see how it ends up on live

smoezoeNov 12, 20181 votes

It would be good on a champion who has a good laning phase and good solo kill potential aka not Lissandra

Hovering HentaiNov 12, 20181 votes

It leaves room for new combos - they buffed her e speed to make her use it more in trades rather than as an escape and it's her most damaging basic spell

smoezoeNov 12, 20181 votes

new combos with the same but weaker moves. Cool Lissandra can go in slightly faster now, but not do enough damage to kill. She literally has no passive for laming phase. It won't help her kill the enemy and if she does kill the enemy unless there's another enemy near by its useless

Mobile PhoneNov 12, 20181 votes

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new combos with the same but weaker moves. Cool Lissandra can go in slightly faster now, but not do enough damage to kill. She literally has no passive for laming phase. It won't help her kill the enemy and if she does kill the enemy unless there's another enemy near by its useless

Are you just ignorant of what lissandra is? she was never meant to be a fucking solo champ lmao literally just look at her entire kit its Multiple cc ALONG with one being an aoe cc with a decent range engage/escape tool with great waveclear on her q. Liss is built to not die in lane and have massive presence in teamfights.

I want a good example on how she isnt meant for teamfights. She had one of the safest and boring laning phase by pretty much being able to spam her waveclear 24/7 from her passive along with 2 cc's and an escape. this change helps make sure you can have a better chance against her in lane with the tradeoff of her ALREADY huge engage potential getting rewarded x20.

KaiokoNov 12, 20181 votes

They don't want her to be the ice version of Annie which is basically all she is at the moment. They want a champion who can provide more lock down which obviously can't come with the same amount of burst.

You now have 3 skills that CC and a passive that also can on top of having better escape from your E at short range.

DweeeblesNov 13, 20181 votes

The new passive looks horrible. Almost useless until the end of the game.

ƒrostγNov 18, 20181 votes

a fed lissandra now will actually be even more oppressive to play against. The base damage on her passive and ap scaling makes up for that w/r nerfs. When behind tho she will be a glorified cc bot with no dmg basically.