Don't destroy Blitzcranks Identity

Lord Coffee·Jul 2, 2019·6 votes·1,941 views

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The new PBE changes for blitzcrank do nothing but hurt Blitzcranks identity as a champion, these changes feel very forced and do not have the champion in mind. I feel like they added these changes to the lesser played champions to create hard counter picks in the game without regard to the champions actual design and identity.

W - His W doesn't need to be changed and the new W doesn't do anything different besides having to waste time to ramp it up to engage but you end up rooting yourself. It already slows you at the end of the duration and you should be using it to engage most of the time. If anything his new W will make disengaging more reliable while making engaging more of a gamble. Since if you take a bad trade engaging with W you will most certainly die before 6. Why is Riot Obsessed with blitzcrank self ccing himself? When these champions Get far better engage and disengage tools while also doing being able to 100-0

R - The increased CD on his ult early will hurt his early game a lot, you will see far less roams, way less W-E-Q All ins. Especially when one of the main reasons you pickup blitz is to snowball the early game. Also, Blitzcrank isnt Leona he doesnt just W-R into the entire team you want to play off his hooks.

I honestly think riot just added these changes because they wanted shieldbreakers in the game so picked lesser played champs, so no one would care.

27 Comments

iiGazeiiJul 2, 20196 votes

They reverted the whole multi-cast, self-root thing, and reverted the ult cooldown increase while keeping the cool new shield shredding and cleanse.

Besides, Blitzcrank's identity is the whole, "grab you from across the screen into certain doom" thing. The proposed changes don't hurt that identity at all.

Lord CoffeeJul 2, 20194 votes

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They reverted the whole multi-cast, self-root thing, and reverted the ult cooldown increase while keeping the cool new shield shredding and cleanse.

Besides, Blitzcrank's identity is the whole, "grab you from across the screen into certain doom" thing. The proposed changes don't hurt that identity at all.

You realize he has other abilities that affect him besides his Q right?

iiGazeiiJul 2, 20198 votes

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You realize he has other abilities that affect him besides his Q right?

Oh, absolutely, they affect him. But they're not his identity. I bet if you pulled a hundred non-Blitzcrank players, 99 of them wouldn't be able to tell you what his W and E do.

Blitzcrank's identity is the hook, the grab, the pull into knockup into silence combo. It's his bread and butter and the first thing people think of when they think "Blitzcrank". Adjusting the way he gets his movement speed isn't going to "destroy his identity".

Lord CoffeeJul 3, 20194 votes

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Oh, absolutely, they affect him. But they're not his identity. I bet if you pulled a hundred non-Blitzcrank players, 99 of them wouldn't be able to tell you what his W and E do.

Blitzcrank's identity is the hook, the grab, the pull into knockup into silence combo. It's his bread and butter and the first thing people think of when they think "Blitzcrank". Adjusting the way he gets his movement speed isn't going to "destroy his identity".

If you can't understand how these changes impact him, you don't play the game even at a moderate level.

iiGazeiiJul 3, 20194 votes

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If you can't understand how these changes impact him, you don't play the game even at a moderate level.

You don't understand what I'm saying.

Yes, these changes absolutely impact Blitzcrank, but no, they do not destroy his identity.

His identity is hooking people in and locking them down. These changes don't affect that identity. They affect Blitzcrank and how he looks at his engages, but his identity stays the same.

Lord CoffeeJul 3, 20191 votes

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You don't understand what I'm saying.

Yes, these changes absolutely impact Blitzcrank, but no, they do not destroy his identity.

His identity is hooking people in and locking them down. These changes don't affect that identity. They affect Blitzcrank and how he looks at his engages, but his identity stays the same.

Bro, do you know what early, mid, and end game is?

Do you know that certain champs are better early game while others are better late game?

Do you understand that if you take away power from their early game strengths it impacts their identity as a early game champ?

If you took away nasus's scaling on his Q you would take away his identity as a Late game champion?

iiGazeiiJul 3, 20192 votes

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Bro, do you know what early, mid, and end game is?

Do you know that certain champs are better early game while others are better late game?

Do you understand that if you take away power from their early game strengths it impacts their identity as a early game champ?

If you took away nasus's scaling on his Q you would take away his identity as a Late game champion?

Uh huh. Gving him more flexibility in how he can use his speed boost in exchange for a harder self-CC doesn't change any of that. The functionn is the same. Speed in close to get someone in range for a hook, or run the hell away. This new version gave you the option of a momentary root if you only needed a small gap closer, rather than a longer slow. That doesn't change when he's strong, what he's trying to do, or what you use the ability for. It was a sidegrade at best.

I thought it actually made him seem more robotic to suddenly break down and freeze in place after pushing himself. It looked more fitting.

These things do change a champion, but not their identity. You're all bent out of shape thinking I don't understand that changes change things, but all I'm doing is pointing out that "destroying his identity" is a hellacious overexaggeration. He would have been different, but the identity of "crazy robot that runs around grabbing people" would have remained intact. The fantasy and playstyle of Blitzcrank would have been virtually unaffected. You're blowing thing way out of proportion.

Lord CoffeeJul 5, 20191 votes

It's obvious you don't play the champion or this game.

ZephyrDrakeJul 3, 20196 votes

Blitz identity is to hook someone and punch them in the face. That is his identity

Lord CoffeeJul 3, 20191 votes

bro, why are you so dumb.

hrooza dota Jul 3, 20192 votes

he is right tho, i pick blitz when i play ranked because of that and that alone that is what make blitz, blitz.

in fact i just realized his W have attack speed buff even tho im someone who spammed him from silver to gold lol.

XJ99999999999999Jul 2, 20195 votes

blitz lost his identify with naut/thresh/pyke release. they are safer champions that do his job better and have way better tools to peel.

i also don't like investing a champions power budget into something niche such as breaking an enemies shield.

Dota 2, there is only 1 pudge. ONE hook champion from long range. No hook and bring them to the middle/towards you slightly champion that ruins what that champion is.

So now riot realizes blitz is outclassed and the only way to make him good is by buffing/changing his whole kit besides Q.

PhieldworkerJul 3, 20193 votes

I dunno. There are situations where it’s nice to hook someone away from team. Or it’s nice to peel for adc when there are assassins or divers and you just ult, uppercut and pull them away from carries. Just something about blitz that other hook supports don’t give you.

MakarakarnJul 3, 20194 votes

So the whole "identity" thing is purely opinion, but I can say without a doubt that having a higher ult cd is in no way a bad thing. His ridiculously low ult cd is a bad thing, a giant aoe silence being on a short cd is definitely a BAD THING.

Baron BarianJul 3, 20194 votes

I like the idea of the changes. His W was already meant to be the idea that he overclocks himself, but with these changes, he REALLY overclocks himself.

MíelláJul 2, 20193 votes

those changes probably won't get to live servers tbh. They look unhealthy for not just Blitz, but the game overall.

His ult in particular, His W also removes his old weakness (His slow) aslong as he mashes the button.

If you mash the button you get: 60/75/90/105/120 It's better than the old W at tier 3 with that.

I doubt that it'll come through.

EedatJul 2, 20193 votes

Gets rid of his weakness? It roots you for 1 second for every time you hit the button at the end lol

AlienPrimateJul 2, 20195 votes

Slow stronger than root confirmed

Lord CoffeeJul 2, 20194 votes

You cant even flash while rooted.

AlienPrimateJul 3, 20193 votes

Sarcasm

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His W also removes his old weakness (His slow) aslong as he mashes the button.

Blitz W roots for 1 second after it expires for each time he pressed it. If he uses all 3 charges he roots himself for 3 seconds. "Removed weakness."

Luxanna AhegaoJul 2, 20193 votes

gut thresh next

PhieldworkerJul 3, 20193 votes

Heck nah. Thresh’s q doesn’t pull someone in with no consequences. Thresh yes does have a hook but he has to either pull himself in or walk up to do the rest of his magic. Gut thresh he says [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Luxanna AhegaoJul 3, 20193 votes

ah u seem have forgotten that thresh's combo will make u go afk from the duration of being cc'd and how good is he at peeling adcs and how tanky hes compared to other champs with good peel like janna

so yeah blitz might be the more annoying cousin but thresh has the more broken kit

TSM PolarbearJul 3, 20193 votes

why is it such a big deal for blitz to have mobility to a point where he is severely punished but, every champion under the sun since season 3 can get massive amounts of mobility in every aspect imaginable with heals,shields extended charges added on riot is having a serious internal issue at this point with design philosophy makes sense that the OG names in league are just not playing it anymore.

SomeKatJul 3, 20193 votes

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Why is Riot Obsessed with blitzcrank self ccing himself? When these champions Get far better engage and disengage tools while also doing being able to 100-0 Katarina

(Basic Kat Combo)

E [.013s channel][.85s selfroot][.15s channel] W [1.25s drop delay][2.2s E reset] Q [.25s channel][.25s flight time][1.25s drop delay] R [.25s selfroot][2s channel][.25s selfroot] E [.013s channel][.85s selfroot][.15s channel][2.2s E reset]

[reset]

E [.013s channel][.85s selfroot][.15s channel] W [1.25s drop delay][2.2s E reset] Q [.25s channel][.25s flight time][1.25s drop delay] E [.013s channel][.85s selfroot][.15s channel][2.2s E reset]

So easy. Only 6 self roots and 11 channels on 9 button presses with 3.9s of self root and 3.15s(1.15s uninterruptible) of channeling for a total of 5.05s forced immobilization on an 'Assassin'.

Sooooo Easssyyy Bruhhhhh. Poor ass Tank Blitzcrank has a selfroot on one of his moves tho Bruh, for up to 3 seconds Bruh;

So Unfair Bruh. He can't even flash bruh :( neither can Kat, but she doesn't take hexflash bruh :(

Apathetically yours, with no sympathy or remorse; [katarina-love] -Kat

Ps. item 3140 [slayer-jinx-wink]

Lord CoffeeJul 3, 20191 votes

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Why is Riot Obsessed with blitzcrank self ccing himself? When these champions Get far better engage and disengage tools while also doing being able to 100-0

(Basic Kat Combo)

E [.013s channel][.85s selfroot][.15s channel] W [1.25s drop delay][2.2s E reset] Q [.25s channel][.25s flight time][1.25s drop delay] R [.25s selfroot][2s channel][.25s selfroot] E [.013s channel][.85s selfroot][.15s channel][2.2s E reset]

[reset]

E [.013s channel][.85s selfroot][.15s channel] W [1.25s drop delay][2.2s E reset] Q [.25s channel][.25s flight time][1.25s drop delay] E [.013s channel][.85s selfroot][.15s channel][2.2s E reset]

So easy. Only 6 self roots and 11 channels on 9 button presses with 3.9s of self root and 3.15s(1.15s uninterruptible) of channeling for a total of 5.05s forced immobilization on an 'Assassin'.

Sooooo Easssyyy Bruhhhhh. Poor ass Tank Blitzcrank has a selfroot on one of his moves tho Bruh, for up to 3 seconds Bruh;

So Unfair Bruh. He can't even flash bruh :( neither can Kat, but she doesn't take hexflash bruh :(

Apathetically yours, with no sympathy or remorse; [katarina-love] -Kat

Ps. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Its almost like Katarina wants to be channeling her massive aoe sustained damage ult. Its like shes an assassin who deals heavy aoe sustained dmg while self channeling and is rewarded for getting the entire channel off. HMM I wonder why Kats dont buy QSS for themselves?

SomeKatJul 3, 20191 votes

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Its almost like Katarina wants to be channeling her massive aoe sustained damage ult. Its like shes an assassin who deals heavy aoe sustained dmg while self channeling and is rewarded for getting the entire channel off. HMM I wonder why Kats dont buy QSS for themselves?

They do.