Hard team comp to beat. any thoughts?

Joe Armstrong·2/2/2016, 10:55:53 AM·1 votes·1,498 views
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Hey guys! The first game NB3 is playing in the video above, he plays against the following enemy team comp: Yasuo, Malphite, Vayne, Elise and Braum.

that comp just has too much of everything. INSANE CC, BURST dmg, TANK BURST dmg with vaynes op AF. true dmg. Malphite + yasuo knockup and elise stun and braum stun and braum CC and braum shield.

Any tips on how to at all play against that team comp??

Thanks all.

7 Comments

ValyrianBlade2/2/2016, 1:08:30 PM2 votes

Early game: Focus on making Vayne irrelevant. Jungler should gank bot whenever it's available and mid when not. Ganking for kills mid will mean your mid laner can also get a lead to roam bot and take down Vayne some more.

Mid game: Keep Vayne irrelevant. Most Vayne games go the same way: team groups 5 to push mid, Vayne stays bot and farms until she has caught up and is relevant. This is a mistake. If you have an irrelevant Vayne on the enemy team, keep her that way. Keep whoever can 1v1 her in the same lane and have them continue to make her irrelevant. If it's someone with TP, even better. Prioritize objectives whenever you get kills - you preferably want to win this one in the mid game as the enemy team scales pretty well.

Teamfights: Don't group up on eachother. A 4 or 5 man malphite ult in to yasuo ult, in to braum ult, is going to be a near certain ace. Have a well defined front and back line, so Malphite can only really ult 2 people in the front line and can't get close enough to ult the back line. One weakness of this comp is that Malphite, Yasuo, and Braum are all teamfight champions while Elise and Vayne are much better at making picks and splitting respectively. So if Vayne wants to farm up you send a person to stop her and that's 1 less person for Malphite to ult.

Late game: Done properly Vayne shouldn't be doing anywhere near as much damage as your ADC due to being far behind. If Elise isn't ahead you'll do really well prioritizing armor and health. If elise is ahead you should prioritize health with a mix of armor/mr. I'd still suggest a Banshee's Veil because it will often block Vayne's condemn and thus let you stick to her to kill her in the fights.

The alternatives of course would be:

  1. Pick counters in every lane and just win early
  2. Pick an even harder scaling team comp and draw out the game
  3. Pick a comp that can 1-3-1 very effectively
  4. Pick a godlike teamfight comp.
arcinex2/2/2016, 11:04:38 AM1 votes

Olaf Volibear Shen Swain and whichever ADC you want.

Mael bro2/2/2016, 12:55:40 PM1 votes
Chumpzi11a2/2/2016, 1:25:34 PM1 votes

With the load screen team, Corki top, corrupting potion max e first. Play it like Rumble, but get some mr. Kench mid cloth and pots, rush sunfire split skills between q and w. Rengar power farm to 6 and kill yasuo over and over and over again. Bot lane, just farm it out. If they go 1-3-1 after lane, Kench ult with ez behind the vayne and kill her. Have Rengar solo Yas. If they go 4-1, pretty similar, Kench and ez for vayne, Rengar for yas. If they group 5, split Kench (maybe build wit's end). Ez and corki stay at range and waveclear the push, Kench should beat the Malphite splitting. If they don't send Malphite, ult or tp to flank and force the 5v4.