Can riot allow FF at 5 min?

BoRnToKiLL666··10 votes·1,311 views

Please, for the love of God, I played games where its over in 5 min and everyone just gives up. Please allow FF at 5 since even at 15, some troll on the team holds the entire team hostage up until 20 min. So basically its a waste of 15 more minutes to get out of the game.

Gangplank 0/2/0 Ivern 0/2/1 Yasuo 0/5/1 Janna 0/2/0 Lucian 1/4/1

at 5 min. At least allow a safe leave without punishment if the score is too skewed.

30 Comments

Pika Fox7 votes

No? If you think the game is over 5 mins in, find a different game to play, as LoL isnt for you.

BoRnToKiLL6666 votes

Oh come on, don't try to take the high ground and think every game is winnable. I am saying that the games that are 100% over should be able to FF. As in, people literally afking at base or just ignoring everything. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Pika Fox3 votes

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Oh come on, don't try to take the high ground and think every game is winnable. I am saying that the games that are 100% over should be able to FF. As in, people literally afking at base or just ignoring everything. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Exactly 0 games are over at the 5 min mark. You dont even get to lane til after 1.

AIQ7 votes

Not every game, but sometimes you'd be surprised 0/23 at 15 minutes. We were still winning because SHYVANA! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dohk99fU0AUPzCl.jpg

Nautilus even stopped palying for a bit, because he had weak mental I carried this match so hard it boosted everyone morale after 0/25 Pyke started helping a bit. (He still got banned) Ezreal got online and together we finished the game.

Diamond Ranked https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3049409337/44883514?tab=overview

Godfather Star6 votes

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Not every game, but sometimes you'd be surprised 0/23 at 15 minutes. We were still winning because SHYVANA! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dohk99fU0AUPzCl.jpg

Nautilus even stopped palying for a bit, because he had weak mental I carried this match o hard it boosted everyone morale after 0/25 Pyke started helping a bit. (He still got banned)

Diamond Ranked https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3049409337/44883514?tab=overview

Id rather ff and win 2 games than stay and try to win 1 obvious loss. Even if we win. Its not worth the time

AIQ7 votes

It was 37 minutes. Most SR games take 25-30 lets be generous and say 20. If I lose 1 20 minute game and win anther 20 min game I'm in a worse boat and I wasted 3 minutes + loading and champion select time. So technically this game was faster and more worth it.

If you win two games the first makes up for the loss and the second puts you on par to where you were. Again though that is slower than doing the one game. If it was an hour you have a point a 37 minute game is actually not that bad. (ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE HARD CARRYING!! WOOT WOOT!)

Godfather Star4 votes

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It was 37 minutes. Most SR games take 25-30 lets be generous and say 20. If I lose 1 20 minute game and win anther 20 min game I'm in a worse boat and I wasted 3 minutes + loading and champion select time. So technically this game was faster and more worth it.

If you win two games the first makes up for the loss and the second puts you on par to where you were. Again though that is slower than doing the one game. If it was an hour you have a point a 37 minute game is actually not that bad. (ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE HARD CARRYING!! WOOT WOOT!)

Yes but when you add the percentage of winning games like these. Its extremely low and ultimatly makes it not worth it

AIQ4 votes

Not every game, but sometimes you'd be surprised...

I understand that and the frustration of unwinnables. TRUST ME I KNOW. But 15 minutes is a very good neutral ground for ending games. 5 minutes is still very volatile especially with shutdown gold, which is primarily what I used to get ahead.

Even if the % is low you'll never win one if you never try, you'd be surprised though how many times you can win unwinnables. I had that same mentality for a while, "go next", while I still do FF sometimes, most of the times in ranked I will try until my nexus dies, because I've seen that the % you are referring to is not as low as you'd think when you are always giving 100%.

BoRnToKiLL6665 votes

Thats incredible, but do you think in the end it was worth the time wasted with him even if you won? For me I would rather take the loss at 5 min and start a new game.

So the game you had that you won with him was 37 min. if FF was allowed to go through at 5 min it would save 32 min and allow you to keep your positive mental state and start a new game.

AIQ4 votes

do you think in the end it was worth the time wasted with him even if you won?

100% This game was fun and I got the guy permabanned.

But what if the next game yeah I win, but it took 32 minutes? Now I'm just in a worse boat for the same amount of time (minus champion select). Right?

Even if I win 2 20 min games that's still longer and I got what 2-5 more LP?

Godfather Star7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5J1TV1G6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-06T18:34:25.952+0000)

No? If you think the game is over 5 mins in, find a different game to play, as LoL isnt for you.

Idk what your on about. Good players know whrn the game is done. In multiple of my games i knew it was over by 3 minutes. And it was. Good high elo players dodge often. Afk. Or ff asap. Because if you lose a game you need to get into a knew one asap to climb efficiently

Sir Saltarin2 votes

Yeah, but the thing is that bad players, the vast majority of the playerbase and I include myself, doesn't know how to close games

If you are below high Diamond every single game winnable no matter how behind you are, there's a reason why the higher you go on the elo ladder the shortest the games are.

Godfather Star4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5J1TV1G6,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-06-06T18:51:16.655+0000)

Yeah, but the thing is that bad players, the vast majority of the playerbase and I include myself, doesn't know how to close games

If you are below high Diamond every single game winnable no matter how behind you are, there's a reason why the higher you go on the elo ladder the shortest the games are.

Every game below diamond is not winnable. And its easy to predict if you will lose.

Sir Saltarin2 votes

No, even low Diamond games go long and are shishows

Bad players dont know how to close games, I often cry when on plat the enemies have a free Nashor and they ignore it running around the map doing nothing

Pika Fox4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Godfather Star,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5J1TV1G6,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-06-06T18:39:10.440+0000)

Idk what your on about. Good players know whrn the game is done. In multiple of my games i knew it was over by 3 minutes. And it was. Good high elo players dodge often. Afk. Or ff asap. Because if you lose a game you need to get into a knew one asap to climb efficiently

If you think a game is over at 3 minutes, youre not a good player. By definition.

Godfather Star5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5J1TV1G6,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2019-06-06T18:52:12.934+0000)

If you think a game is over at 3 minutes, youre not a good player. By definition.

But i was right. So i guess that makes me a correct bad player?

Pika Fox2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Godfather Star,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5J1TV1G6,comment-id=0001000100010000,timestamp=2019-06-06T18:55:19.397+0000)

But i was right. So i guess that makes me a correct bad player?

Of course you were right, you made yourself right. Terrible mindset + negative atitude is going to lead to a loss of your own design because youll fail to put in proper effort.

Its like me saying im going to lose an arm wrestling match, not try at all, then claim im an amazing predictor of outcomes.

AIQ7 votes

Yasuo 0/5/1: That's talent, it takes over 30 seconds to walk from base to lane even mid. Meaning that he died every 30 seconds! Get this man a medal!

sîñ6 votes

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Yasuo 0/5/1: That's talent, it takes over 30 seconds to walk from base to lane even mid. Meaning that he died every 30 seconds! Get this man a medal!

https://pics.me.me/0-13-0-52-16-07-job-here-is-done-but-you-didnt-14381909.png

AIQ3 votes

Silly Lux , he gave them 2k gold, what do you mean he "didn't do anything"? He was supporting the team.

######It was just the wrong team...

sîñ3 votes

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Silly Lux , he gave them 2k gold, what do you mean he "didn't do anything"? He was supporting the team.

######It was just the wrong team...

good INTentions

Godfather Star6 votes

Amen. Not only will this make games shorter. It will also give you more time to play more games and climb faster

BoRnToKiLL6667 votes

Pretty much this, some games are just lost and its better just starting a new game instead of wasting your energy with a game that is over

IR3ALLY3NJOYC0CK6 votes

5 min are you crazy? That's way too long. Riot should implement FF at champion select.

Godfather Star5 votes

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5 min are you crazy? That's way too long. Riot should implement FF at champion select.

Thats actually a good idea! Why should you have to dodge? Its bs

IR3ALLY3NJOYC0CK4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Godfather Star,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5J1TV1G6,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-06T18:53:53.701+0000)

Thats actually a good idea! Why should you have to dodge? Its bs

Why bother with champ select. I should be able to press a button and have a % chance of either winning or losing my next 5 games automatically without having to play them. Then I randomly get +lp or -lp based on whatever the button decides.

BoRnToKiLL6664 votes

ACTUALLY, i agree with this unironically, when no one dodges and you have

Lucian Jinx Ezreal on the same team

oriannashutsdown5 votes

i support ff at 10 minutes tbh and wish the majority would rule always not just at 20 minutes

Sky Cardis4 votes

Time is money. Wasting time is wasting money. A company would lose their minds if they found out their employees were 'wasting time'. For example in retail, you have to do cases per hour (55 an hour as an example), the company would lose their shit if they found out the employs were fixing the shelf so product can properly go up instead of just putting the product up. They don't want it done RIGHT, they want it done FAST.

In the US, productivity is KEY to all things (which I think is the problematic flaw for us overall), we been brainwashed in "always being productive" So wasting MY time in a 40 minute game praying on victory rather than FF at five to get into another game is a waste of time and resources. Some of us live tight schedules and rather win/lose quick games instead of a dragged match where time is short.

TL:DR: Waste my time on an up hill match is taking up my fun time

EDIT: ADDED: And I mean in games in general, not particularly ranked. I could care less about Ranked/LP, let the wanna be try hards have it.

5050BS2 votes

100% NO

FF in Ranked is 100% dont play Ranked then. Throws happen all the time and a lot of champs are mid to late game and can carry with a good fight.

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