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Zhonyas Hourglass needs a nerf

JamesaXwF·1/30/2020, 1:56:54 AM·3 votes·1,156 views

I know most of the people active on this forum are silver players so i don't care for their opinions and want some opinions from higher elo Players on the topic. Zhonyas Hourglass is the most broken item in League of Legends and after you hear me out you will realize it too.

-It's 96,48% gold efficient WITHOUT its broken passive. ( You may now think 96% is balanced but keep Rabadon's in mind)

-It's Passive has a 120 second cd only (for the fact that it literally makes you unkillable)

-According to probuilds.net it's core Item in 90% of ALL Mages Final Builds while ONE specific DEFENSIVE Item should never be CORE but instead situation based (Can you think of ONE Akali, Fizz, Morgana, Kennen, Karthus, Kassadin, Heimer, Vladimir and basically any other Mage not buiding Zhonyas ?)

-AD's Counterpart to Zhonyas ,Guardian Angel or QSS is NOT core on ANY AD be it ADC or AD Top/Jgl ( can you explain that to me?)

-It literally makes you immune to pick you out in Teamfights. A Zed/Talon or similar Assasins will never be able to focus you out if you're the biggest threat on the enemy team thanks to your Zhonyas completely negating their Combos leaving them open for your Team

-You can carelessly engage Fights oneshotting Squishy's and use your Zhonyas to have your team cover you in the meantime

-It restores your cooldowns while you're in stasis

-It gives you an HUGE advantage when you're about to get tower dove

-and finally it's components. Fiendish codex = GIves AP and CDR (only 900g) first Item for many Mages Seeker's Armguard = VS AD matchups it's godtier early game. Stopwatch - I don't have to say anything about this. It's basically there to let you use your Stopwatch ,base and then refresh ur cooldown with Zhonyas.

If you don't think its broken why the hell is ONE SPECIFIC DEFENSIVE ITEM CORE BUILD OF 90% OF MAGES????

BTW i made this post cause i played Talon on a silver smurf playing against a Lissandra,Heimer and Lux. It took us 54 Minutes to win the Game because I'd find myself useless by the point the 3 enemy mages had a zhonyas on their hand negating Combo after Combo . When 4 of the enemy Team Players used their Zhonyas/Stopwatches in a 15second time frame the enemy Lissandra just had one word to post into the All Chat: "LOL"

Now some of you will come at me saying: "WTF are you talking about this Item is so shitty and useless it only delays your death by 2.5 seconds wtf ur trash im silver i know what i'm talking about while not even knowing how basic wave management works (cause you don't know that in silver) or maybe WTF it's only fair for Heimer to put his Turrets down place a empowered turret and press his Zhonyas to autowin the 1vs1) or maybe WTF it totally should be allowed having a kata jump into your team in a fight oneshotting the ADC forcing a protective Braum Ult (or sth.) just to have it negated by the Fact that Zhonyas exist in every effin Mage Build

I don't actually care if you silver players downvote this thread and would rather have a higher elo Player(Diamond or sth) change my mind about this item

TL;DR

Nerf Zhonyas to the Ground to make it a situational pick NOT core build on every mage or remove it completely from the game

5 Comments

Ragnaveil1/30/2020, 2:52:05 AM3 votes

Cant, mages will cry if it gets nerfed just a tad bit.

Tribbles Foxfolk1/30/2020, 8:13:42 AM3 votes

Once burst becomes far less dominant and assassins stop running around unchecked, Zhonya's Hourglass will be built less often as well. It's only considered an essential item in two scenarios:

  1. On AP champions that simply don't have anything better to build (whether it's because they have their core items already or because itemization for that champion sucks)
  2. When the enemy team is made up of primarily burst champions.

2 is the vastly more common scenario, especially in the current scene across most (if not all) elos. The reason it hasn't been nerfed yet is because it's already an item that tends not to be much more than an "inconvenience the enemy" button. Zhonya's Hourglass isn't currently a saving throw unless the opposing team is extremely careless and left themselves no follow-up once stasis wears off. It's simply a button to delay death for a few seconds, since in a lot of cases, you are nearly guaranteed to just die the microsecond you come out of stasis.

In a high elo game with communication and where teammates actually respond to threats, Hourglass can be useful because those 3 seconds might be crucial. But let's be real, even in high elo, Hourglass still mostly acts as an inconvenience to the enemy team, not a life-saver.

(before "MUH MAGE BIAS", I play Senna support. I haven't built an Hourglass in months, if not far longer, simply because I don't play champions that want it. This is based on a lot of old experience, since I'm a season 2 vet, and I've lived with this item for years. I mean, if you wanna talk "core item Zhonya's", go back years when its stats were much higher and the cooldown on its active was lower. THAT was pretty silly, current Hourglass is nothing by comparison.)

JamesaXwF1/30/2020, 3:05:37 PM2 votes

Did i mention you can reset Turret aggro with it? :)

HmoobLauj2/5/2020, 11:25:35 PM1 votes

Needs a nerf?, fck that shit, Riot just simply need to remove this item alongside guardian angel and zhonya's hourglass. Oh shit, I got caught out?, let me just pop that hourglass real quick. Oh shit, I put myself in a bad position?, let me just pop out that hourglass real quick. Any competent team can cover your ass while you're sitting there being invulnerable and shit. Any competent player could also get out of that bad situation and potentially turn things around after hourglass too. This item alone covers the player's mistakes and they are no longer punished for their mistakes. Both ga and hourglass also gives the player the option to make plays that they normally would never do without it while making them invulnerable to cc or damage (kennen flash ult+hourglass, morgana flash ult+hourglass, neeko flash ult+hourglass). Needless to say, I hate hourglass with a fcking passion.