CDR

WillHealForHonor··1 votes·613 views

say a champ has an ability on 4 sec cd like vlad. he then buys an item that gives him an overall of 40 cdr.. will he even feel the change? like my question is even tho it might not be stated on the ability but will he still have some cdr on his abilities.. like from 3.6 cd to 3.4 ? it is not rounded up or down right?

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kcStranger1 votes

I don't think it's rounded. In this case, the ability will go from a 4-second cooldown to a 2.4-second cooldown. I think it's easy to underestimate the impact of cooldown reduction on low-cooldown abilities, so consider it this way: Imagine a teamfight or skirmish that lasts 12 seconds (which is close enough to typical). If that ability is used on-cooldown, with 0% CDR it could be used 3 times during the fight, whereas with 40% CDR it could be used 5 times. For a level-5 Transfusion from Vladimir, that's 460 + 120% AP damage and 110 + 50% AP healing. Put differently, if we consider Vladimir's Q damage output (ignore the healing) during the fight, the damage from 0 AP and 40% CDR is the same as from 383 AP and 0% CDR. (Deathcap + Zhonya's would be 312 AP for comparison.) So, CDR is valuable on short-cooldown abilities because it lets you use them multiple times in one encounter, whereas it's valuable on long-cooldown abilities because it makes it more likely that you'll have them up for the next encounter. Honestly, CDR is good on all abilities (unless an ability somehow had almost no cooldown, which would probably be broken), but I imagine the theoretical "power trough" of CDR would be on medium cooldown abilties (like 50 seconds maybe?) that are unlikely to be up twice in one fight but very likely to be up by the next fight.

WillHealForHonor1 votes

so i just bought flat cdr quints and i have scaling cdr glyphs i wanna try them on vlad.. then with wota i have 37.5 cdr at lvl 18.. i thinks its soooo important on vlad

Dreadlocks1 votes

item 3152+item 3158+item 3065+5% masteries

WillHealForHonor1 votes

yeah but i wanna get the cdr early on.. so i can use my more early on

Dreadlocks1 votes

u could do CDR blues which is 7.5% + 1 Quint cdr 2.5% (10) + 5%masteries +WoA(10)+Lucidity(15) = (40)

Orrrrrrr item 3152 item 3158 +5% masteries and CDR per lvl blues for 15...

I just personally wouldn't trade AP quints for CDR on vlad.. no more than 1 at least.

WillHealForHonor1 votes

Yeah i know he needs those early game stats from the ap.. But the thing is that it is hard to get cdr on him.. because i wanna try to get mobility boots.. (The green ones, are those the mobility ones? :P) for his lack of movement speed.. U could also go movement quints instead of 2 ap quints imo :D imma try it at least :D

Jaquecz1 votes

well on pantheon who has a similar CD on his q, it lowers it so that its ready every 2.28 (or was it 2.4) seconds. I'd say it's pretty noticable

Reaper Soraka1 votes

I don't know about Vlad personally, he has a pool that locks his abilities for a couple seconds anyways. But as Soraka or Nasus, I definitely see the difference between 10-20-30-40% cdr.

WillHealForHonor1 votes

yeah.. ur right i use his pool for cds and i get zhonyas for that too..

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