Talon's Q His meele Q is not the same range as his auto atack, causing him to miss the auto to activate the passive. If u Q the enemy u can't auto if the enemy keeps running
Talon's W The direct Talon nerf to his W m, force some talon players to build Tiamat (putting players behind with 1350 gold) or switching to minion demat and you lose runes that are much better.
Etc
preternatural2 votestalon is fine though.
Danny MT1 votesTalon is not my bro his kit refuse to work his E is very bugged his Q need improvement. I have 1.2M ponits on Talon and the champion is very bugged. His MS/AS should be buffed. Being a squishy melee assassin with almost no stick potential, having almost the lowest attack speed in the game and running slower than mages feels very ....
preternatural1 votes[{quoted}](name=Danny MT,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5BrPUjKR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-26T11:18:47.310+0000)
Talon is not my bro his kit refuse to work his E is very bugged his Q need improvement. I have 1.2M ponits on Talon and the champion is very bugged. His MS/AS should be buffed. Being a squishy melee assassin with almost no stick potential, having almost the lowest attack speed in the game and running slower than mages feels very ....
and yet he's one of the strongest champions in the game. why does he need an MS or AS buff? bugfixes sure but the E already allows you to do things other champions outright cannot. his Q is fine lol, i mean really :/
Danny MT1 votesNow let's be honest it's powerful because it's an Assassin it's normal to give oneshot to Adc but not to exaggerate the champion is balanced. If you know how to play with him and snowball is strong otherwise it's always weak and there will be much better choices than Talon (Pyke, Katarina, Zed etc). Except for E (Talon can't cast Assassin's Path on the same area of terrain for a set duration. COOLDOWN: 160/135/110/85/60) and Flash you have nothing defensive in your kit abilities. Vs a gank you are weak up to lvl 6. Compare Zed or Katarina vs Talon you don't have as much more op than Talon which has an E once at 160sec if it is so strong why it is not played at Worlds? Why does he have such a low win rate at low elo? The champion has strengths and weaknesses that all champions, his kit abilities is weak compared wtih the old Talon kit ablilites. For me honestly what interests me is to improve only the quality of the champion. And fix the bugs that 2 years are the same. 0 LORE No interactions with other champions. It is sad that a champion with so much time in the game is in this situation. You see the heel base skin? Compare it with katarina base skin or garen base skin or darius base skin or zed skin base and tell me if it's the same quality :)
Night Rider 6762 votestalon is fine though.
his ebugs? him being forced to build Tiamat when literally no other ad assasin needs to have you ever fought a zed as talon then got super ahead only to lose a 1v1 cause the zed has a ghostblade or duskblade with a long sword maybe two depending on if they have enough brain cells to cs properly [slayer-jinx-catface] while you have like Tiamat dirk and Warhammer that's not fun
the idea of his q being able to proc passive really isn't a "buff" since like it'd just make you proc your passive like 0.5 seconds faster
His melee q range is the most annoying thing cause I've lost so many kills cause instead of getting ranged q they were just close enough for it to be in melee range letting them live cause when talon goes for a melee q its pretty much a micro stun on himself since he can't move
atm I wouldn't say talon is "fine" he has definitely been better
preternatural1 votes[{quoted}](name=Night Rider 676,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5BrPUjKR,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-10-27T02:43:13.020+0000)
his ebugs? him being forced to build Tiamat when literally no other ad assasin needs to have you ever fought a zed as talon then got super ahead only to lose a 1v1 cause the zed has a ghostblade or duskblade with a long sword maybe two depending on if they have enough brain cells to cs properly [slayer-jinx-catface] while you have like Tiamat dirk and Warhammer that's not fun
the idea of his q being able to proc passive really isn't a "buff" since like it'd just make you proc your passive like 0.5 seconds faster
His melee q range is the most annoying thing cause I've lost so many kills cause instead of getting ranged q they were just close enough for it to be in melee range letting them live cause when talon goes for a melee q its pretty much a micro stun on himself since he can't move
atm I wouldn't say talon is "fine" he has definitely been better
but other assassins do have to build tiamat if they want to lane in most instances, zed is an exception because he doesn't have mana. also, you can really just build lethality if you want to and skip the tiamat, it's no big you just farm second.
the talon vs zed thing is a skill matchup. and you describe your own misplays using his Q. you can cancel that animation with flash or R btw, pretty sure you can use the w to cancel it too but that aside the negative utility on his q is an intentional design choice.
Cloud2732 votesLet's be honest here, "QOL change" is just a fancy way of saying buff. And Talon absolutely DOES NOT need any. If anything he deserves nerfs.
Danny MT1 votesTo be clear this doesn't mean buffs, some of these champs may be powerful already but in those cases we may look to fix bugs or just improve the experience in other ways.
The 2018 champion receives 1 nerf and the talon player is forced to build tiamat 1350 gold .... for wave push this is sad bcs is forced.V8.14 pach 2018. In almost 2 years 1 hard nerf no buffs no iprove the champion experience who feel like .... His MS/AS is very low.
Its All Skillzz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Danny MT,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5BrPUjKR,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-26T11:34:58.858+0000)
To be clear this doesn't mean buffs, some of these champs may be powerful already but in those cases we may look to fix bugs or just improve the experience in other ways.
The 2018 champion receives 1 nerf and the talon player is forced to build tiamat 1350 gold .... for wave push this is sad bcs is forced.V8.14 pach 2018. In almost 2 years 1 hard nerf no buffs no iprove the champion experience who feel like .... His MS/AS is very low.
Because a champ who can instant clear waves with a longsword and then hop over 15 walls to go gank or invade the jungle is not balanced, if he rushes tiamat then he can pretty much push in his laner an leave. once he got a kill or 2 off roaming he can then procede to 1 shot his laner and the jungler anytime he wants and then go roam elsewhere.
Danny MT2 votes1.Build tiamat and lose 1350 gold and slow the normal build/lethality 2.In 2019 you can t jump the walls bcs is bugged in 60% E (Talon can't cast Assassin's Path on the same area of terrain for a set duration. COOLDOWN: 160/135/110/85/60) is balanced the map is big where is the problem and btw you invade the enemy jg at lvl 3 same Akali,Zed same dmg etc. You have the early game advantage is an Assassin man is not (Morde farm and scale) late game destroy. You need to roam all the game search opportunities do pressure on the map,help the lanes etc You need to understand the role of the Assassin :)) 3. Stop exaggerating :)
NaughtyWord1 votesMost assassins need a buff like I need a hole in the head.
Danny MT1 votesI'm not saying buff Talon just fix his bugs and improve his gameplay quality. In the game are a lot of Champions who need bugfix and improvements in the game. There are champions who do not seem to be loved. at least it seems from the outside. 2y no skin no bugfix etc.
NaughtyWord1 votes[{quoted}](name=Danny MT,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5BrPUjKR,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-10-26T13:15:51.900+0000)
I'm not saying buff Talon just fix his bugs and improve his gameplay quality.
Except you are, you asked for a MS and AS buff among other things.
His MS/AS should be buffed.
Moreover,
here will be much better choices than Talon (Pyke, Katarina, Zed etc).
With exception to Katarina, those other two need to be hit with the nerf bat. They are too safe. They should be brought down. IMO 
is the ideal assassin. High risk, high reward. No CC, no invis, no teleporting across the screen, and if you misplay you get melted.
That's how all assassins should be.
Danny MT2 votesSorry my bad. But look this : Talon: MS : 335 AS : 0.625 This is not normal Zed : MS : 345 AS :0.651 Katarina : MS :340 AS :0.658 Kayn : MS:340 AS:0.669 etc His slow MS forces you to buy Boots of Mobility and you lose Boots more important like tabi or Mercury's Tread. 5-10 MS i think is ok His AS is very slow comapred with other champions etc.