Ultimate Hat removed

KyubeyXP·May 31, 2018·4 votes·14,717 views

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Why would they take away the best rune in the game? They replaced it with a rune that was obviously created for the new champion Pyke :( I'm disappointed in Riot rn and now I have to fix my "Updated" rune pages. In what situation will I need to pass through units in those 2.5 seconds with champions such as Karthus, Jhin, or Xerath where Ultimate hat was likely a huge part of their build? Ultimate hat was a rune that almost everyone could use, but now you've taken that away to cater a newly released champ and maybe a few others?

19 Comments

Vlada CutMay 31, 201810 votes

No, it was moved to domination runeline with bounty stacking mechanic like all other hunter masteries hence why it's called Ultimate Hunter now.

MiraculumJun 19, 20181 votes

Still sucks though, cause for Rengar (I take Ultimate Hat on him), I want the Relentless Hunter, but I can't pick both.

RatpieJun 6, 20184 votes

at the time of my reply, 63 people did not like the change to 1 that did. That should be enough evidence right there. If it was even a 2/1 ratios then there is room for change, but 63 to 1????

xX ARAM ANDY XxMay 31, 20183 votes

Im always willing to accept a little change in game play from time to time. Makes the game feel fresh again.

Warlord RhinarkMay 31, 20183 votes

I wouldn't say it caters to Pyke as much as you think it does.

ZeniosJun 4, 20183 votes

Bring back ultimate hat. This is a disgrace. They already nerfed the ever living crap out of mana flow band in sorcery. Like wtf does RIOT have against the sorcery tree? Nerf another rune tree. I hate domination and now you slap the best part of sorcery (ultimate reduction) in a dumb rune in domination instead of in sorcery and its not even as good? Screw Pike, he's lame, no one wants to smell like rotten fish zombie man. Misfortune will send him back to his watery grave any day anyways.

DBS RonovonMay 31, 20182 votes

Why have it removed? Because Riot caters to lame ass QQers that don’t like it, instead of telling people to get better at the game and adapt to it in games. Also, this is something I hate about this game, and part of why I quit playing. GG with more bad decisions Riot.

DrCyanideMay 31, 20182 votes

... it wasn't removed though. Go read the patch notes.

MobrexJun 6, 20182 votes

Have not played in bit came back and found Ultimate Hat removed. Makes Dr. Mundo kinda unplayable in this meta. Sad day.

Pika FoxMay 31, 20181 votes

It was moved to domination so mages have a better path as domination main/sub.

moonriseCZJun 1, 20182 votes

But WHY? Domination is defined as "Burst damage and target access" and sorcery is defined as "Empowered abilities and resource management" WHY is ULT CDR reduction in domination and bonus MS after ult in domination? THIS MAKES NO SENSE!

I know many assassin ultimates are movement based, but if this is the only reason it is a very bad idea. Why not moove the movement speed to domination? What about enchanters? What about artilery mages?

So now when support wants to have lower ult cdr (such as soraka), she has to take domination as a second tree -> no revitalise. Yes zombie ward is good, but that is all.

RITO PLS! OMG!

Malix FarwinJun 15, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=539WB5PM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-31T13:43:08.330+0000)

It was moved to domination so mages have a better path as domination main/sub.

Wasn't moved for mages, the healing and movespeed ones are still better. Mages are mostly sorcery and when they do spec into domination primarily, they opt into Relentless Hunter 90% of the time.

Demon King MaouMay 31, 20181 votes

Technically still there just needs "UNIQUE" takedowns to stackup

HethaleanMay 31, 20181 votes

Not sure this is very helpful to Pyke in comparison to other competing runes.

WoodakoodashoodaMay 31, 20181 votes

I didn't vote because I don't care either way.

Honestly, they could've kept Hat with the addition of its Hunter variant with an addendum stating that their effects do not stack.

It's obvious that each tree can have more than 3 options per branch.

I mean, was Hat so overwhelmingly powerful that it was necessary to tack a bounty mechanic on it?

There aren't many champions that will suffer from this change, but Chogath definitely comes to mind.

RekSai CoffeeCoMay 31, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=539WB5PM,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-05-31T14:27:39.990+0000)

I didn't vote because I don't care either way.

Honestly, they could've kept Hat with the addition of its Hunter variant with an addendum stating that their effects do not stack.

It's obvious that each tree can have more than 3 options per branch.

I mean, was Hat so overwhelmingly powerful that it was necessary to tack a bounty mechanic on it?

There aren't many champions that will suffer from this change, but definitely comes to mind.

I also second this Ivern Zac these two junglers come to mind and have no benefit at all from domination runes but also would mean they lose out on movement speed from sorc in order to get their ult cd. This is also a nerf to LT builds like Nocturne

0bsidian AJJun 15, 20183 votes

Shen will probably hurt from this too

D2VincentMay 31, 20181 votes

Honestly, this just makes me glad I no longer take Sorcery on Karthus. I generally run Electrocute anyway (Predator for JG), and at least for lane, I can take this rune alongside Presence of Mind for even shorter Ult cooldowns. I still can't take it when I'm going JG because Ravenous is a must if I don't want my ass kicked by JG monsters lol