Let's have a discussion about hard-engage and solo queue win rates.

VardenSalad·3/18/2015, 7:40:09 PM·1 votes·688 views

In light of the Sejuani's ascendance to what some would consider competitive viability and some would considered over-powered-ness, I want us to have a discussion on the strength of having easily identifiable hard engage (with or without the usage of supplementary summoner spells) and the mentality of solo queue and teamfighting.

While I think that it's obvious that providing a visual indication to engage is powerful for unorganized teams, I want to know if you think that the need for follow-up skews champions win rates positively or negatively, or if other qualities of the champion (damage, supplementary CC, tankiness) have more of an impact on win rate than hard engage does.

Links to potential 'hard-engage' and 'heavy flank' champs stat pages for reference:

Aatrox Aatrox: http://www.lolking.net/champions/aatrox&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Alistar Alistair: http://www.lolking.net/champions/alistar&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Amumu Amumu: http://www.lolking.net/champions/amumu&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Annie Annie: http://www.lolking.net/champions/annie&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Ashe Ashe: http://www.lolking.net/champions/ashe&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Bard Bard: http://www.lolking.net/champions/bard&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Braum Braum: http://www.lolking.net/champions/braum&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Cassiopeia Cassiopeia: http://www.lolking.net/champions/cassiopeia&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Diana Diana: http://www.lolking.net/champions/diana&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Evelynn Evelynn: http://www.lolking.net/champions/evelynn&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks: http://www.lolking.net/champions/fiddlesticks&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Galio Galio: http://www.lolking.net/champions/galio&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Gangplank Gangplank: http://www.lolking.net/champions/gangplank&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Gragas Gragas: http://www.lolking.net/champions/gragas&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Hecarim Hecarim: http://www.lolking.net/champions/hecarim&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

JarvanIV Jarvan IV: http://www.lolking.net/champions/jarvaniv&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Kennen Kennen: http://www.lolking.net/champions/kennen&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Leona Leona: http://www.lolking.net/champions/leona&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Lissandra Lissandra: http://www.lolking.net/champions/lissandra&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Malphite Malphite: http://www.lolking.net/champions/malphite&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Maokai Maokai: http://www.lolking.net/champions/maokai&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Nami Nami: http://www.lolking.net/champions/nami&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Nautilus Nautilus: http://www.lolking.net/champions/nautilus&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Nocturne Nocturne: http://www.lolking.net/champions/nocturne&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Pantheon Pantheon: http://www.lolking.net/champions/pantheon&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Rammus Rammus: http://www.lolking.net/champions/rammus&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Rengar Rengar: http://www.lolking.net/champions/rengar&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Rumble Rumble: http://www.lolking.net/champions/rumble&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Sejuani Sejuani: http://www.lolking.net/champions/sejuani&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Shyvana Shyvana: http://www.lolking.net/champions/shyvana&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Sion Sion: http://www.lolking.net/champions/sion&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Sona Sona: http://www.lolking.net/champions/sona&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

TwistedFate Twisted Fate: http://www.lolking.net/champions/twistedfate&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Vi Vi: http://www.lolking.net/champions/vi&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Volibear Volibear: http://www.lolking.net/champions/volibear&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Warwick Warwick: http://www.lolking.net/champions/warwick&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

MonkeyKing Wukong: http://www.lolking.net/champions/monkeyking&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Zac Zac: http://www.lolking.net/champions/zac&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

1 Comments

Raptamei3/18/2015, 7:59:46 PM1 votes

Hard engage is necessary at a "level" of play where you might as well pick trondomere and wafflestomp everyone.