Anyone else tired of smurf accounts?

iSyn·Nov 14, 2015·27 votes·2,359 views

Seriously is anyone else tired of smurf accounts? I've been playing the game for a while and I'm tired of elo climbing my ass off only to have some Diamond Smurf come in and screw over my promos. Or even worse I've had 3 of my friends quit cause they were playing vs people that were smurfing. How is it fair to take someone who has huge game knowledge play vs someone that is just learning the game? Just something to consider :/

EDIT: I would like to add that when my friends were playing the game I was not playing with them they were level 7 and 8.

32 Comments

Penguin EclipseNov 14, 20153 votes

Cheer up. It's going to get a lot worse when dynamic queue rolls in.

DrCyanideNov 14, 20151 votes

How would it get any worse for those who can't play ranked yet, like the OP's friends? Actually, how would it get any worse for those who can play ranked?

MimyNov 14, 20151 votes

can only get worse for those who do.. Muahahhaha.. >:3

I contemplated on making a new account just to go into PVP with other smurfs.. and do bad (I already am bad, im bronze) .. just to make them rage quit their smurfs... But I know I wont do that.. but it would be funny..

Me: Im doing my best... I got a kill at least! that an imporvement! I usually don't get any! Raging smurf : RAWR HFHFDFSDSLJHSFHJFSI

Me in mind: Hue...

iSynNov 23, 20151 votes

had 2 of my friends quit due to trying to learn the game but just getting stopped out every round. It's no fun to just lose every single game.

BeersteinNov 14, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Penguin Eclipse,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4L39ja9E,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-14T17:53:01.662+0000)

Cheer up. It's going to get a lot worse when dynamic queue rolls in.

What's this? Never heard about it. All I know is every game but one I've had since the pre season in team builder has had teams mismatched by several hundred MMR.

Edit: Looked it up..ugggghhh!

1st MovementNov 23, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Penguin Eclipse,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4L39ja9E,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-14T17:53:01.662+0000)

Cheer up. It's going to get a lot worse when dynamic queue rolls in.

So is dynamic que coming out in patch5.23?

iSynNov 23, 20151 votes

Might not release til before the next season starts. Like a week or 2 before.

Deep Terror NamiNov 14, 20152 votes

Do you have any solid ideas to replace the need for smurfs? Riot hasn't made smurfing bannable because there are legitimate reasons to smurf but they have no alternative.

Joe DreddNov 14, 20152 votes

if i lose to a smurf then he deserved the win more than me

ShifuneNov 14, 20153 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nice Henz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4L39ja9E,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-11-14T18:25:28.783+0000)

if i lose to a smurf then he deserved the win more than me

I personally believe that playing against smurfs increases the rate at which you grow as a player. You get to see mechanics that you probably would not have seen for a VERY long time. Then you can adapt those mechanics into your own play style. Without smurfs, you would just have a bunch of people go through all 30 levels of the game and still wonder why they are terrible. You would not have played against anyone good, so obviously, you would not improve as much.

I enjoy when I have the opportunity to play against smurfs. Sure, I may lose the game, but what I learn from that game will help me win more often. People say that you can't learn anything from a game in which you get completely destroyed, but I believe that is false. You can always look back and see what made the enemy start destroying you.

DazedOnlookerNov 15, 20151 votes

^ This, but tbh the only reason i dont like smurfs is because the 99% of them i run into are just plain toxic/rude as fk in terms of how they choose to communicate with their team/and or enemy team...

Robbit MangNov 14, 20152 votes

you're just as likely to have a smurf on YOUR team as they are on theirs. Besides, isn't diamond like top 2% of players? how likely is it anyway you get an actually good smurf on either team, considering a fraction of those players even smurf

Lost In TimeNov 14, 20151 votes

Smurfs has always existed though.

I started back in Aug '11. I had to constantly grind vs Fiddlestick and Twitch smurfs (50 second stealth twitch), where they abused the fact I had no clue how good vision was back then.

There really isn't a solution to removing smurfs except gritting your teeth for the first 20 odd levels. Or play bots.

iSynNov 23, 20151 votes

Not asking for a solution just asking if other people are tired of it. Was a general question.

ShifuneNov 14, 20151 votes

Anyone else tired of people complaining about something without posting a possible solution?

iSynNov 23, 20151 votes

I wasn't asking for a solution, nor was I saying I had one or there was one, I asked if anyone else was tired of them cause I was wanting to know. Simple as that. Anyone else tired of someone making posts on a topic thinking that they know what they are talking about but really they have no idea?

ShifuneNov 23, 20151 votes

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I wasn't asking for a solution, nor was I saying I had one or there was one, I asked if anyone else was tired of them cause I was wanting to know. Simple as that. Anyone else tired of someone making posts on a topic thinking that they know what they are talking about but really they have no idea?

I didn't say you asked for a solution. I asked if anyone was tired of the pointless bitching that you are doing. Simple as that. Complaining without suggesting a solution is just you bitching. Nothing more, nothing less. Not like we haven't seen hundreds of post similar to this one, so what makes this one any more, but at the the others bothered to offer possible solutions. You post is just a waste of space.

iSynNov 23, 20151 votes

No one asked you to come i here and instantly start trash talking. If you don't like it, ignore it, no one asked you to come in here and bitch.

ShifuneNov 24, 20151 votes

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No one asked you to come i here and instantly start trash talking. If you don't like it, ignore it, no one asked you to come in here and bitch.

And no one asked you to bitch about a problem that everyone has known existed since season 1. See? Two people can play this game. Why don't you use your brain and realize that there is probably a 99% chance that Riot won't do anything about smurfs because it would hurt highly ranked players and the LCS scene. This also has been stated since S1. Don't you get it? Your entire post is meaningless.

Also, if you don't like my comment, ignore it. :) Just stating facts.

runedaraNov 14, 20151 votes

I don't like their holyer than tho attitude. Ever time I got "diamond" player they have never impressed me. They just complain how we don't team fight well and go 2/3 in lane.

LookNov 14, 20151 votes

I only have a smurf account to play with new friends who are just learning the game, and I constantly give tips in all chat to help newer players. I also don't purposely kill them when I could have I just let them learn the game. If it's a pretty obvious kill then I will kill them so they can see their mistake.

I also never touch ranked on my smurf since I don't feel the need to play at a lower level since it doesn't improve my personal game at all. Some smurfs are like myself and will help other new players, and others are the ones that you sometimes run into that just want some sort of pride from stomping lower tiers.

iSynNov 23, 20151 votes

You are the only smurf that tries to help. 9/10 Its them obliterating the other time and talking shit the entire time.

EthyreonNov 15, 20151 votes

Tbh getting rolled by better players taught me a lot. I mostly lookt back and laugh at it. League isn't like most video games which let you succeed without really having to try or improve. Imho that makes it all the rewarding, even if it means playing against yorick, having no idea what he does, and then getting pummeled into the dirt a couple times.

lolout12Nov 15, 20151 votes

Ye, but at the end of the day smurfs will generally be better than you, so especially in promos it will be frustrating.

Only Play DariusNov 15, 20151 votes

lvl 7 Account that plays Yasuo Leblanc Zed

definitely a legit new player

LethalShadowNov 15, 20151 votes

I have played this game for a long time and I think I may have run into 1 MAYBE 2 actual smurfs who were way too good for my elo. Most people who say they are smurfs either aren't, or they really aren't nearly good enough for it to have a noticeable impact.

What I am tired of, is people calling others smurfs when they get stomped. They assume the other player is clearly Diamond on a smurf account, discounting the possibility that they themselves either didn't play very well that game, or the other player is better than his elo suggests and is trying to climb out.

In my attempts to climb to gold for the end of the season I played my heart out and I had several people insult me for "smurfing" and whining both in-game and post-game. Some even went so far as to send me friend requests to talk more trash. It's extremely disrespectful to discredit the other player's performance like that.

Two friends and myself were thrown into low silvers after this season's placement matches, and I assure you all of us belong in high golds at least, but we simply don't have the time to play enough games to climb quickly (adult life is a b****). If you take into account all the trolls and seriously bad players who got lucky and are ranked higher than they should, it can take a long time for someone to climb to their proper elo.

In short, most people you think are smurfs are probably just players who have yet to fight their way up through elohell.

(Side-note: I don't think anything less than high platinum main can even be seriously considered a smurf. The level of play at <=Gold is seriously bad.)

iSynNov 23, 20151 votes

Tracking IP to accounts isn't really something hard to do/learn. Specially now where you can look up how to do it. There are a lot of smurfs playing. Granted most of them aren't super high tier but end of season alone we ran into 4 Diamond players(D3 to D1) and at least 15 plat players.

OzumatNov 15, 20151 votes

Playing against superior opponents helps you learn the game faster. Mistakes that you weren't even aware of are being exposed to you and you get so much better, if only you swallowed your pride.

Even if we woke up tomorrow to find Riot went insane and tried to persecute smurfs, there is literally nothing they could do to stop them.

iSynNov 23, 20151 votes

i would agree but I don't feel like I learn anything playing vs someone that is 3 tiers higher than me. 1 or 2 sure but not much higher. Thats just me personally i learnt he best playing against people that are above my skill level but not way above my skill level. I don't mind playing against gold or lower plats but diamonds in my game takes the fun and learning experience out of it for me.

M0b1usNov 23, 20151 votes

I absolutely hate level smurfs. Ranked smurfs though I am much more patient with (no, a bronze 4 doesn't have a "smurf".

Level smurfs who play for the sole purpose of beating up new players should be out right banned. If someone wants to make a smurf to play with their low level friends then they should not be punished. Why not make a new que where new players have the option to play with smurfs.

So, a level 9 player would have 4 standard game options. The first is generic normal que where he should only be playing against other players around the same level. The second would be a team que with other players around the same level (non-smurfs) and the last 2 would be a modified ques of each where all players know for a fact that there will be level smurfs.

This would make a relatively safe environment for new players but also give them the option to play with more experienced friends.

Riot should definitly address the new player experience due to level smurfs. Though all they seem to care about as of recent is "What can we do to have more #LCSBIGPLAYS?"

iSynNov 23, 20151 votes

But with that being said you have to play non ranked games to get to level 30.