I am surprised no one is complaining about Abyssal Mask

Das Saucey·Mar 20, 2018·2 votes·494 views

Call me salty, but I am tired of mages abusing this item. Veigar, Ryze, Cassio, to name a few, are all unkillable vs mages who cannot utilize this item as well.

Dual stats for survivability vs magic damage dealers, as well as mana, mana/health sustain, CDR and 10% increased magic damage just to overload the item some more.

This item combined with Liandry's yields so much survivability AND 10% increased damage overall, 10% increased magic damage from their passives. Rather egregious.

10 Comments

Baron BarianMar 20, 20184 votes

Aren't they changing it so it has a much smaller aura?

Zane ZephyrMar 20, 20181 votes

Yes, they had it on the PBE with it's aura being really small so it's built pretty much only on tanks

Das SauceyMar 20, 20182 votes

I did not know that. If that's the case then that sounds like a fantastic nerf. This item needs to be removed from viability in the mid lane. I think it completely polarizes mid lane.

Edit: I looked it up and if that is the new range that looks like a promising nerf.

TokogawarufMar 20, 20181 votes

I fully agree and im glad that this will finally be solved this Wednesday

ZapMyHeartMar 20, 20182 votes

Non-mobile mid-ranged mages should have a fighting chance against longer ranged mages.

Also: item 3102 negates those 3's strongest spells needed to destroy you.

Shouldn't we complain about ADC itemization instead? Tired of their egregious builds of 1.5crit items and destroying things left and right.

Das SauceyMar 20, 20181 votes

That is a whole other can of worms (although I do agree with ADC itemization being a serious problem), however this item is more important and more directly relevant to me because I play mid lane.

I don't have a problem with Banshee's veil: 1.) It has a much worse build path 2.) It can only block 1 spell per 40 seconds at best 3.) It only has MR, not dual synergistic defensive stats of HP and MR. 3A.) Because of the above Void Staff is much more helpful vs this item than Abyssal Mask.

ZapMyHeartMar 20, 20181 votes

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That is a whole other can of worms (although I do agree with ADC itemization being a serious problem), however this item is more important and more directly relevant to me because I play mid lane.

I don't have a problem with Banshee's veil: 1.) It has a much worse build path 2.) It can only block 1 spell per 40 seconds at best 3.) It only has MR, not dual synergistic defensive stats of HP and MR. 3A.) Because of the above Void Staff is much more helpful vs this item than Abyssal Mask.

Both are terribad.
You shouldn't be engaging when it's down then.
It also has the damage component of 70AP, which adds to the burst. Abyssal has no AP.
You shouldn't be dueling against DPS without thinking that you will win the trade.

PopcornBunniMar 20, 20182 votes

Don't worry, it has changes going through to make it literally unusable by anyone

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Dasdi96Mar 20, 20181 votes

It's funny how this place complains about damage creep, yet also complains about a way to counter said damage creep.

Das SauceyMar 20, 20181 votes

Damage creep is a problem, but an extremely overloaded item that gives too much in terms of stats, like it's dual synergistic defensive stats of hp and MR, mana, mana and health sustain, CDR, AND 10% increased magic damage (to everyone on your team, not just you) is just not a viable solution to that in my opinion. Especially when it is pushing most mages and Assassins (especially bad for AD assassins considering most of them are not good right now because most are not performing well due to the shield/tanky meta we're in + lethality nerfs) who cannot use it as well out of mid lane further minimizing champions played there.