Silver is the hardest rank because teammates are the worst - Change my mind

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This is the smurf account, man. All his diamond games were on his main. Don't you know that player skill scales with account level?

Stuff it. No "smurf" plays GP and gets a negative winrate with 1.89:1 KDA. If he is indeed a smurf, then he is trolling and should be reported.

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Accounts cost $10-15 and I don't post on my main or play on this one. :)

And I have the hottest girlfriend, she's actually a lingerie model. I'd introduce you to her but she goes to a different school.

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Accounts cost $10-15 and I don't post on my main or play on this one. :)

Take the bait all you want.

So wait. You spend $10-15 each on several accounts just to troll on them until you get them banned?

.... This is what you do with your days? I mean, you do know account trading is big time against the TOS, I'm sure, so in addition to wasting your money, you're pretty much begging to have any account hooked to your IP banned by saying this right on the official boards. (If you want to delete that post with that in mind, I'll delete this one too; I'm not keen to see people IP banned because they mentioned the wrong thing on the boards.)

Also you literally just said that you've "played in all ranks", but imply that Silver - the one this account is currently in - is the hardest. That would mean you do play on this account. Regularly enough to maintain a Silver rank. And you're complaining about not being able to climb higher because of the smurfs and unskilled teammates.

Also if you're going to make a separate account to post with, why not just make one for free? You don't need to play at all to post on the boards.

I've seen slices of Swiss cheese with less holes than this pair of posts, friend!

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They are already challenger themselves ofc they wouldn't be stuck in silver. Unless you want silver to be harder to climb then challengers than ofc challengers won't have any issues with it.

OP claims he's been in every elo, meaning he's at a challenger skill level. Challenger players don't get hard stuck in silver.

Secondly, why do you think they start a fresh account in the first place? I'll tell you why, because they want the account "clean". An account with history in it will be vortexed into the matchmaking's obsession with averages. If they actually int a few games in silver, and I'm talking about tens or even hundreds of games, or maybe just grab someone's account who has been stuck in bronze for like 3 years with hundreds of matches under it, they'll suddenly find even as high elo climbing silver would be substantially more of a challenge all of a sudden.

Someone's already taken a bronze 5 account with abysmal mmr (like 20% winrate or something) and climbed with it to disprove that. This was obv prior to iron existing, but still the same concept.

That touches on the main flaw of the matchmaking in League. Climbing is ONLY possible, when you're ALREADY good at the game. You need to be at least high silver or even gold to get out of bronze elo, for instance. The system fundamentally does not give you a chance to climb it organically and instead expects you to be better ALREADY before it can award with a rank slightly lower than the one you've fully demonstrated the ability to be in. If you are looking to eventually "git gud", then you're shit out of luck; you have to ALREADY be good.

do you think every player in high elo was just blessed with good league skills? They all got good over a period of time.

That's why climbing is so painfully slow and it often takes YEARS just to climb from silver to gold. Because the matchmaking is just constantly battering you with unfair matches the instant you show any hint of improvement while wondering why your skill isn't 2 leagues above your actual rank. People do not learn from that kind of nonsense in the same vein as giving university exam paper to middle school kids will not make them learn. The matchmaking does NOT facilitate people getting good, it only facilitates pushing climbers down as much and unfairly as possible; and the only exception is when you're VASTLY superior than your current rank.

If you're taking years to climb to gold from silver, you're probably not actually actively trying to improve. No one that actually does what's necessary to improve in the game gets hard stuck in that low of an elo. Simply grinding games and making the same mistakes over and over and never actually improving yourself will obviously never result in your going up in rank, unless you get a lucky streak of games. If you want to climb from bronze to silver? actively look at the mistakes you're making and fix them. If you want to "try" to climb from bronze to silver, just continue mindlessly grinding out games.

"But how would there be high elo?" I head you ask. Most high elos get their rank by simply being in the game first before anybody, and that's why high elo is a look at the game's oldest standing players; and with their smurfs that took up other spots in the already limited spots in high elo. Sure they may be better at the game, but often the real difference between them and say plat players is ultimately down to them grinding more and playing in the time when matchmaking wasn't so anal about keeping the status quo.

that's just blatantly wrong. Sure, most popular streamers have been high elo since an early time. But that's why they're popular. I guarantee you a majority of high elo players haven't been playing from the very early stages of the game. Your defeatist attitude of it being impossible to climb unless you're already good is self-fulfilling.

I can assure you, if all League youtubers start their X to challenger stream by buying a hard-stuck bronze account with hundreds or thousands of matches under its belt (ofc, those accounts would probably be banned later, but it's not like they intend to keep them forever beyond making a video anyway), then the stream would take a lot longer than a single video or 2 and it wouldn't be nearly as easy. They don't do that because obviously, the purpose of that X to challenger videos is to serve as clickbaits and ego-strokes, there is no fucking way they're gonna turn around and say, "yeah the game's matchmaking is busted and "git gud" is simply not enough", now can they?

again, that's literally already been done, exactly because of arguments like yours. I can't remember if they ever actually finished the challenger grind or just stopped at like gold or plat or something, but it's already been done. unranked to challenger has been done to death, high elo youtubers need to find something unique to get views.

In our elo every game is winnable. Stall them out, they'll eventually throw because nobody has any clue on how to end the game.

Also: Stop playing when you're tilted. A friend of mine always tells me that he's not tilted after losing 5 games in a row: Yes you are. If your midlaner gives away first blood and your first thought about that is "not again" you ARE tilted.

And try to play something other than support. Yes, I've climbed to gold playing support in Season 5. It's disgusting. Climbing with a role that has next to no impact in low elo unless you snowball your ADC to a state where he can just brain-afk oneshot the enemy is way too tedious. It's still possible, but get yourself a capable ADC Duo if you want to climb at an acceptable rate.

i look at this. and in every game you posted. you had a bad kda as well. you wont carry if "int" as well.