Pyke passive/scalings

Oriaxis··8 votes·5,671 views

Ok, so people were building pyke full lethality bwcause of the burst for his ult. Then ruot decided to change all his scalings to scale off of lethality. This is wrong. It makes people build that way and thats the only way. He needs more versatility with his builds. Also, doing this makes his passive scaling off bonus health completely useless. I think they need to revert him back to his original or change up his passive.

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Chembaron Yamada4 votes

You got the wrong idea. Pyke's health to AD conversion is not supposed to make you buy bonus health. It is exactly the opposite. It is there to forbid Pyke to build tank.

With his kit, having 2 hard CCs and an execute, they wanted to make sure that he gets played the way he is intended to: as an assassin. If they wouldn't put these things like the health to AD conversion and the lethality scaling in the kit, then everyone would simply build him tank and become unkillable, while providing good CC and gold sharing with his ult.

This is to prevent abuse cases. Pyke is supposed to build assassin items. If you don't like that, don't play him.

boricCentaur13 votes

Yea no pyke has those things to stop tank pyke and tank is pyke negates the main weakness of pyke it's a problem.

xxxliltrash 2 votes

Pyke doesnt have much builds in the first place, due to his passive, and the fact he only has ad/lethality scalings. The only other build pyke has, was tank pyke back at the release, were he would build frozen heart and similar items. Riot probably implemented this whole change just kill off tank pyke, as he was meant to be an cc assassin and not an cc tank.

SovereignMammal4 votes

Assassins cant build tank, bruisers cant build tank, tanks cant build tank, who can? Oh thats right mages because theyre allowed to abuse anything and everything

ApexInTheCircle2 votes

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Assassins cant build tank, bruisers cant build tank, tanks cant build tank, who can? Oh thats right mages because theyre allowed to abuse anything and everything

You're getting mages mixed up with ap supports.

Nevrankroaton2 votes

No, Pyke must NOT scale with hp or resistance, Pyke tank was played at his release and it created a lot of issue because his utility is high, he had an execute and with tankyness, he was a tank/slippery catcher.

Riot gatekeeped him in the lethality build so pyke stay squishy and so him having high sustain with his W/passive make sense. He is here to harass you, move back and all-in you when the timing is right. Pyke is certainly at his less toxic moment (despite Pyke top...) because of that, because his kit reward building damage and keep him from abusing tankyness like Ekko/Nidalee and others did.

So no. Never. I love pyke but for the sake of everyone, pyke must NEVER be able to build tanky again. And you can build AD on pyke, there is no issue, you can build two lethality item and after that some other AD item.

General Esdeath 1 votes

All his scalings? It's only his E time

letsfeedtogether2 votes

And w and r

General Esdeath 1 votes

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And w and r

Wait what the fuck when did they add that?

Ackelope1 votes

pyke is not really incentivized to build health, since his current passive health to AD conversion ratio is notably less gold efficient than just buying the AD instead. Of course, if they made it incentivized, it would just be a way for a tank pyke build to come into relevance, and adding the lethality scalings is primarily due to the fact that they wanted to eliminate the possibility of tank pyke builds as much as possible, so i don't see it changing any time soon.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

I disagree. Full lethality pyke might be viable only in bronze.

I build on him items like item 3139 item 3026 item 3156 Early pretty regularly due to the fact that he is extremely squishy and gets destroyed by cc and burst damage. Sometimes even beforeitem 3147 if their team is AP/CC heavy . I sometimes sacrafice some movement speed for these item 3111 item 3047

Build full lethality only when extremely ahead and when you can close the game before the enemies can scale, otherwise you're getting killed by 2 shots of anything at late game.

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