I don't get why junglers are immune to playing bad

SNSD Sunnny·Dec 25, 2016·2 votes·1,170 views

When they get invaded 1 v 1 and die, they blame their laners for not coming.

Yet when laners get solo killed, they're automatically bad and flamed all game.

When laners come, their jungler just gets away for free while you're behind 3 minion waves. Then you lose the lane because your jungler is garbage in the first place for being unable to 1 v 1 the enemy jungler so everybody is behind. So you're behind in lane and you're getting ganked more which is an autoloss. Then they blame you for losing lane and saying that you're trash.

When is riot going to change jungle so its a less of the deciding role of the game? its beyond ridiculous you can tell whos going to win just from 1 person on each team.

11 Comments

A Basic IslandDec 25, 20166 votes

Jungler is 10/0/5, has tons of cs, gotten dragons but he hasnt ganked my lane? he sucks

SGT Dingle BerryDec 25, 20165 votes

Laning always goes smoothly for me and is far less stressful because I expect nothing from my jungler.

"But..but their jungler has come by 3 times!"

So what, I'm going with the assumption that my jungler is making an impact elsewhere, whether in another lane or straight up farming to be worth a damn mid to late game is fine by me.

Win or lose lane on your own terms. Ward to negate anything save for a tower dive and even then, that frees up plays on the other sides of the map.

SNSD SunnnyDec 25, 20161 votes

i just had a game where my jungler spam pinged his own jungle, we chased him around for a minute and didn't kill him, then our jungler and mid tried to 4 man dive bot and failed completely while their jungler sat at my top turret bush and i had to leave and lost 3 more minion waves on top of the 3 minion waves i lost when going into our own jungle.

then i get blamed for losing lane

ZenturianDec 25, 20163 votes

And when Op win a game because his jungler played well, helping to snow ball lanes, counter jungled, warded, ect... OP carried the game. 100% of the time. Those useless fucking junglers, making godly OP lose. How dare they prevent him from paying attention to his own mini map, and positioning for minimal risk. How dare they prevent him from simply CSing, securing kills if he can and making sure his laner isn't fed which is almost always easily possible if you aren't a moron. Bad jungler.

Tukan TonkoDec 25, 20163 votes

You can lose a lane and still win just fine. But if you go 0/6 in lane, what do you expect your teammates to do? Our community is toxic and you will very likely have at least one toxic player in your team that will flame someone... Anyways, if you die in your own lane because your opponents is better, because you got ganked or your jungle won't gank your lane it's not his problem, it's yours and only yours. But it seems like if you were jungler it would be your top laner fault that he died, right? If jugler decides not to gank your lane, deal with it. Ward, farm under turret, don't die.

SNSD SunnnyDec 25, 20161 votes

i have literally almost never lost lane due to opponent being better or even the enemy jungler ganking.

most of the time its your shit jungler constantly pinging their own jungle because they can't handle an invade 1 v 1, and when you leave your lane and lose 3 minion waves then you're already completely lost.

its a lose lose situation when your jungler is trash, when they get killed 1 v 1 they blame you, when you leave lane you're behind and their jungler is going to be ganking more

d4rkshockDec 25, 20162 votes

If anything, they are more blamed than anything. I know that because I play shyvana. She's a farm jg. Don't expect early ganks. I can try vut it won't work 50% of the time. I'm lucky enough to burn a flash.

BrightonDec 25, 20162 votes

Some definitely are, and these forums enable them to suck knowing they will get pity. Humor me and excuse farming junglers being outfarmed by a ganking one, or a person picking an early pressure one like Shaco or Lee and pretending they are Shyvana.

EschetonDec 25, 20161 votes

Some junglers are good early. Some are not. Knowing you will lose the 1v1 and wanting the laner to collapse is perfectly reasonable. Especially if it could give an easy first blood to that laner. Which then strengthens them against ganks. In part because the other jungler is now behind, and in part because that laner is now ahead.

Tukan TonkoDec 25, 20161 votes

Well, no? 3 waves are only 18 creeps. That's not a huge advantage that will lose you the lane and game, not even close.

Also, this is in my eyes a very poor decision making. You just consider your jungler trash because he ping you when enemy jungler is invading his jungle. Every single jungler would and SHOULD do this! You have many possibilities to do. You can either stay on lane, you know where enemy jungler is and play accordingly to it, ping your jungler to stay away if he can't handle the enemy (early game Lee for example). Or, you can go help you jugnler, preferably killing the enemy jungler, then rotate somewhere, take an objective, go back to lane. Sure, your enemy laner may still be on top, he may have overfarmed you but guess what, you just got an assist/kill and an objective. What is more?

Even if your jungler died and you are still on your lane, you still know where the enemy jungler is, so you can push and play aggressive, your bot can get dragon, ward enemy jungle, take camps, your mid can do the same or roam somewhere. If you lose the game it's not only junglers fault, because he simply died in his own jungle due to enemy jungler invading. And if he pings him in his jungle it's your fault that you think he is trash and you can't get anything out of it. You said you almost never lost your lane. So why don't you push? Why don't you kill your opponent? Why don't you roam? That's just poor decision making.