A Quick Plea to do Something Else with the Taliyah Nerfs

Atreus Jones·Sep 7, 2016·3 votes·570 views

6.18 has many changes, but one stuck out to me,

Threaded Volley (Q): No longer deals 50% extra damage to minions. Unraveled Earth (E): Trap damage decreased to 70/90/110/130/150 from 80/105/130/155/180

At first glance, it seems like nothing, but then you remember that 50% damage to minions benefited Taliyah, giving her a slightly faster clear time, this was implemented at some point for reasons I don't exactly understand, but why remove it?

I understand some people will say, her clear was unfair. And while true, some champion's clears are insanely faster than Taliyah's, even when early game her damage is pretty low to begin with.

I would have suggested something different, maybe instead of starting at 50% it scales with the level of her Q, it will reduce her clear time, but not as big as just removing the extra minion damage altogether.

4 Comments

DynikusSep 7, 20162 votes

she's the only champion with a skill that can clear caster minions at level 1. Her playstyle of instantly shoving lane and roaming is certainly a problem early on.

That said, completely removing her bonus damage to minions is likely going to butcher her early game. Since she already falls off incredibly hard late game as riot even admits, that's pretty worrisome. I said it back in a thread when the change first showed up on the pbe, I feel like 25-30% damage to minions down from 50% would be a reasonable way to nerf her early game without completely crushing her.

CudyDarkyzSep 10, 20161 votes

As someone who plays Taliyah, The counter to lvl 1 caster minion cheese is to not let her do it. She has to use her 1 spell and needs to aim it just right to hit all 3 minions. she needs to stay still while all 5 fire or a few will miss one or 2 minions while she is doing it punish her. She cant move to far or she wont hit the minions, and she cant change where her q is aimed so she only has autos. i'v only had 2 people try and it worked both times one being a Ahri and another being a Lissandra.