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If anyone has any questions I have been jungling since season one with a peak of Plat 1. Would love to help anyone out i can.
If anyone has any questions I have been jungling since season one with a peak of Plat 1. Would love to help anyone out i can.
Im a decent jungler but i lack the ability to counter jungle. what is the easiest way to counter jungle?
Do people only main jungle because they suck at last hitting minions in lanes?
My friend who likes to play Kindred jungle keeps going against Lee (known counterpick, apparently) and he always takes her red (and other camps) and she can't stop him without help from lanes, who don't always know to be watching out for his invades. What should Kindred jungle try to do when the other team has Lee?
Whenever I jungle...which is often. I notice my lanes will often push lanes to the enemy turret. They don't seem to know how to zone enemies out of CS or how to freeze lane and they will request I gank enemies near enemy turrets. I refuse their requests and even tell them to be careful and ward because they put themselves at risk against the enemy jungle.
In many situations, the enemy jungle ganks my allies...successfully. And what generally ends up happening is I am blamed for not ganking and my allies will say how they don't have a jungle and that the enemy has this many ganks while I haven't ganked at all.
The purpose of ganking lanes is to provide an advantage to the lane and apply pressure to the lane, but I see no advantage to be given by ganking enemies under their own turrets. As for lane pressure, if my allies are pushing enemies that hard then there's enough pressure there already, if not too much pressure.
The problem I encounter is that allies who push blindly will only perform worse throughout the match and blame me all throughout, never once considering how to avoid repeating their mistakes. While my decision to not gank enemies near or under their own turrets is a sound tactical choice, it also causes my team's morale to drop because they feel like I've abandoned them and that I don't care about them.
This isn't true, of course. If I cannot gank lanes then I am usually farming my own camps, securing a dragon, or counter jungling.
My approach to ganking lanes is watching the map carefully and roaming to lanes in which enemies have extended to or past the river, exposing them to danger. I gank lanes in which my allies have enough health and resources to provide assistance. I am not usually looking to kill enemies. Sometimes it is enough to cause them immense damage or cause them to burn their summoner spells.
I ignore lanes in which enemies are incredibly ahead so as not to add proverbial gasoline to the fire created there by dying to an already ahead enemy. I am, after all, just one person. I cannot hold my own against an enemy with an enormous lead.
Again, these are sound and tactical approaches, but my allies do not give the enemy team enough breathing room to expose themselves to danger. And my allies will prioritize kills over CS or turrets. They do not seem to understand that enemy champions are nothing more than obstacles. Removing them is necessary to secure victory, but that does not always equate killing them. Sometimes, or oftentimes, it is enough to force them into retreat so as to secure another objective. But allies would rather chase surviving enemies blindly into unwarded territory, abandoning objectives entirely for another kill that will likely result in the deaths of my allies to enemy reinforcements.
Could you share with me your approach to ganking lanes and also how you deal with similar or identical situations in which allies create more problems than they solve?
Why do some junglers focus on punking the jungle camps all match rather than gank?
Example: Enemy jungler has established pressure and ganked top, mid and bot numerous times (combined). Team mate jungler continues to farm and shows up to the lanes after the fact the gank is over (if at all.) Timing issue? Afraid to screw up? New jungler?
I freeze my lane near my own tower to help position a gank for our favor. Still nothing. Instead I get dove / 2 manned. :/
Really curious what their mindset is. This has happened numerous times my past few matches.