Gragas,what has riot done to you.

AnimaticStranger··4 votes·1,108 views

Gragas my man what has riot done to you. No im really curious.He has one of the lowest win rate and pick rate and im still wining with him. Well yes i play lot of team builder but even there he has low win rate. Someone please explain. I mostly play him jungle and supp.

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Remlap12235 votes

Gragas is meant to be a bruiser now, but his values and sustain are piss now. But its a welcome change because Gragas was more toxic than Nidalee at one point. If they actually give Gragas attention (probably two years from now at best) he could be a pretty good tank. We just need an LCS player to show their MLG espurts skillz to Riot to show that he can maka da playz so that they'll buff him, because espurts is all that Riot cares about.

Caezium1 votes

He can make da plays with his ult + E thingy.

Remlap12231 votes

I'm not saying Graggy can't make plays, believe me, I've been (solely) on the receiving end of good Gragas players, they crush me. But until rito sees that, he's going to suck. And the pros are only going to play champions that are OP. Fact. The instant that you couldn't build Vi straight tank and couldn't hit like you're building straight damage on anyone else, pros dropped her instantly. She's still super good and a ridiculously good jungler, but Lee Sin is still OP and Vi ain't.

AnimaticStranger1 votes

Really just i want know if you play him.Do you think nerfs were justified. I hated him prerework.And thanks for answear

Remlap12231 votes

I don't play him anymore. I played him after the rework and I was instantly hated it because he was slow and his early game was piss. He went from super OP to super UP, and still hasn't recovered. I wouldn't have minded him sitting in lane and recovering his health, as long as his damage was weak and he wasn't getting free mana. I wouldn't have minded him doing damage, as long as he didn't get free sustain whilst being super tanky. But Riot took both of those away from him, and now I can't really play him well. He just doesn't tank hard enough nor does enough damage. So I'm shelving him until something changes.

Hrud2 votes

Riot hated Gragas as a fathlete.

Done251 votes

I mostly play him jungle and supp.

Gragas has great CC but low damage and awful scaling. So basically you're doing it right, and most people try to play him as a solo laner.

DaSneakyGit1 votes

I can't recall how much he's changed, but AD Gragas maxing Slam and Drink early was hilarious in laning phase. The early game surprise burst and painful AA's caught everyone off guard. I had so much fun heh. AP Grag was for lames.

BlackRaven1 votes

id rather him this bad then that good. soon they will buff him tho and i hope its a fair one.

Hayaishi1 votes

He was overpowered and had to be brought down.

Koolaidbeans1 votes

Gragas is in a pretty good spot right now, I think he's a great toplaner and jungler, I've even pulled off support quite a few times.

You're maxing RQWE right?

I would avoid building the Elder Wraith on him, just go Golem into RoA. RoA is all the damage he needs, he deals quite a lot of damage over sustained fights, while also having the QWE burst combo too

Golem>RoA>Spirit Visage or Sunfire (randuins if they really have a lot of escapes, otherwise you can stick to them and deal the fire dps), just build resistances based on their teams damage outputs. I'd avoid Chilly Mittens and morellonomicon on him, Gragas just wants health for his passive so he can deal his steady dps and disruption as long as he can.

I roll my AP jungler page (5 AP, 3% MS, dual pen reds, AR yellows and AR/MR blues) with 9/21 masters, always grab that double edged sword for grag.

NoMonku1 votes

Gragas got nerfed because he was incredibly strong. He still hurts, but doesn't have the obnoxious free sustain that he used to have before and doesn't clear minion waves as easily now. He got "toned" down so he became a lot more unpopular. These changes hurt him overall no matter what role he goes into, so he became unpopular.

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