revert evelynn kit completely plz (like leblanc, plz !!)

SKT ReZa·Apr 24, 2018·24 votes·2,680 views

just do it, new one was a mistake, im here and all evelynn mains on reddit follows me, this new one is actually trash, we need W movement speed buff like old eve and also a cd reset to get out easily (new one u can get out of fight every 2min with your R). bring level 1 stealth back, all evelynn mains quit game but we are only one still playing and she is absolute trash , if u want play evelynn u can easily pick kha shaco elise and be more successful. just do it just revert ur shit

update : she dont have any escape and have 0 cheese or counter jungle potential , totaly garbage i dont know how some ev players say she is good, get fuced in ur jungle and ur lane all game

38 Comments

Sex Crazed EveApr 24, 201817 votes

I like the new Evelynn

TormentulaApr 24, 20189 votes

Same

Old eve was only good if early game junglers were meta, itemization for AP junglers good, and if cheese strats where available.

If we had old eve right now she's probably be garb tier in comparison to shaco and kha'zix.

New eve gets set appart with her high scaling and target access as well as pick with her charm. Sure she can't cheese early but I think that's for the best (not like her winrate is through the roof as-is or anything...)

edirssApr 24, 20184 votes

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Same

Old eve was only good if early game junglers were meta, itemization for AP junglers good, and if cheese strats where available.

If we had old eve right now she's probably be garb tier in comparison to shaco and kha'zix.

New eve gets set appart with her high scaling and target access as well as pick with her charm. Sure she can't cheese early but I think that's for the best (not like her winrate is through the roof as-is or anything...)

old eve one shot khazix before he find where he is, mejai gunblade echo duskblade lichbane and u remove everyone dont build defensive. she also had a shield on her R. what is the new one ? god tier ? she is in garbage tier , not good early , not mid, not late, even her playstyle is not like assassins, there is no surprise in her kit, she is trash (as well everyone put her in trash tier)

GibberwattApr 24, 20182 votes

Sir, I'm not sure what you've been playing, but its not evelynn. The purple thot always treats me well and I generally pick up 2-3 kills immediately following lvl 6. You should consider changing your playstyle to fit that of the new eve, rather than continue fighting to stay with the old eve.

TormentulaApr 24, 20181 votes

Call her garbage tier when she isn't top picked 53% winrate. She not as shit early as many say just because they don't know how to gank with her, her ganks are still really effective early but her duels are more weak until 6.

Old eve couldn't one shot a kha that built hex, new eve would while CCing him

Old eve was super reliant on just cheesing early and hoping she could one shot somebody, new eve lost the cheese but is way more effective at one shorting and clearing with her new ratios

Sex Crazed EveApr 24, 20184 votes

Honestly, if they made Evelynn's E movement speed boost duration extend when she got a kill, it would probably silence half of the old Evelynn mains.

KazekibaApr 24, 20182 votes

... I never noticed she had that mechanic. Amazing.

I want her to have a shield (but I'll excuse it for the hard CC they added) and her E to be % Current health damage like her old ult was, or at LEAST be two separate hits rather than one, each applying on-hit effects, and with the change from %max to %current, add AD ratios to her empowered E. Id also like her ult to be a % missing health, but then its just AoE Veigar ult. Or at least have the damage at 31% and at 99% not be the same.

All in all, new Evelynn is fine, but I really do miss Tank eve. I used to do item 3110 item 3153 item 3146 and item 3065 item 3742 item 3060 builds, along with item 3147 item 3142 and I really wish I could still do so and find success - not just despite the build, but BECAUSE of it.

Daddy AntsApr 24, 201816 votes

Can we stop with these revert threads.

It's getting old.

Katarina Evelynn Warwick Taric are probably the best reworks I've seen them do in the 2.5 years I've played this game.

SaiannaApr 24, 20182 votes

I've seen them do in the 2.5 years I've played this game.

In other words: You don't even remember the old champs pre-rework.

SpongebobIsLifeApr 24, 20181 votes

? He was around before they reworked, and he is by no means wrong.

Daddy AntsApr 24, 20182 votes

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In other words: You don't even remember the old champs pre-rework.

I remember Katarina pre rework.

I also remember WW pre rework

I also remember Taric pre rework with his point and click stun.

What's your point?

No other reworks need reverting.

Not Eve

Not Kat

Not Fizz

ZerenzaApr 24, 20182 votes

Completely and totally agree.

ZackTheWaffleManApr 24, 20182 votes

but muh evelynn mid

Malicious MetalApr 24, 20188 votes

That's some hardcore upvote brigading if I ever seen one. Just when r/Rengarmains invaded the boards.

Rico NastyApr 24, 20187 votes

Lmao what are you talking about? New Eve is so much more balanced, healthy, fun, and thematically hit the nail right on the head. Y'all are killing me with these revert threads. Some of these champions don't need any work at all.

Devil May ÇryApr 24, 20185 votes

https://www.eposts.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Evelynn_0.jpg Amumu miss u

ZerenzaApr 24, 20185 votes

Get the hell outta here lol with your 3 evelynn games, master yi main ass.

The evelynn mains subreddit is complaing about the lack of Hybrid ratios, thats it, they like the rework as a whole with a few outliers. I for one love new evelynn, shes my favorite.

I love everything about new evelynn, if they reverted her i would without a doubt quit the game, there's no reason to revert a completely perfect rework just because of a select vocal few continually complaining.

SKT ReZaApr 24, 20181 votes

i was playing eve since s6 but i sold my account after eve rework and dont know what name the guy put on it after sell. yi is not still like evelynn, old eve was so funnier to play, but still is a champ with 0 cc, his playstyle is not at all like old eve but i didnt found any champ to main and enjoy anymore. also i still didnt hit diamond with yi after 0.5 season but i hit diamond with eve easily when i learnt her. another important thing for me is having a guy maining champ and put guides or gameplays on youtube or twitch. evecp was my favorite one before eve rework but he quit game and changed his acc name (maybe sold) i now watch cowsep,

ZerenzaApr 24, 20185 votes

A lot of old Evelynn mains quit but the reason why is because of the Counterplay that they gave opponents, It wasn't because new eve wasn't fun it was because old eve was a lot more Unfair and they didn't want to have to play around her new weaknesses and burst window so they simply quit.

Like it sucks but Eve needed a rework, and this rework is perfect the only complaint i can sympathize with is her not having Hybrid Ratio's. Other than that i think they hit her rework right on the head and people need to stop complaining.

It's understandable with Rengar, who went from an Assassin to a Diver/Fighter and had his entire kit altered. It's okay with Leblance who went from an Assassin to a Kite Mage/Burst Mage. But it's not okay for evelynn who became what she was meant to be, an assassin.

mirAcIeApr 24, 20182 votes

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A lot of old Evelynn mains quit but the reason why is because of the Counterplay that they gave opponents, It wasn't because new eve wasn't fun it was because old eve was a lot more Unfair and they didn't want to have to play around her new weaknesses and burst window so they simply quit.

Like it sucks but Eve needed a rework, and this rework is perfect the only complaint i can sympathize with is her not having Hybrid Ratio's. Other than that i think they hit her rework right on the head and people need to stop complaining.

It's understandable with Rengar, who went from an Assassin to a Diver/Fighter and had his entire kit altered. It's okay with Leblance who went from an Assassin to a Kite Mage/Burst Mage. But it's not okay for evelynn who became what she was meant to be, an assassin.

You say that but new Evelynn has 10 times the banrate of the old one while having the same playrate/winrate. If anything new Evelynn is even more unfair because if you are squishy she still oneshots you out of stealth without warning and exposing herself to danger (thanks for the ult).

And in the early game charm literally has no counterplay except backing off because she can miss 4 (FOUR) of her abilities and still proc the charm. Old Evelynn needed setup for her ganks, new one is both setup and execution. And all out of stealth. The only change towards fairness was moving stealth to level 6. Nothing more.

ZerenzaApr 24, 20183 votes

Well, i have 1 thing to say, new evelynn is actually able to do her job correctly and effectively if you don't play around her, it's as simple as that. A rework is supposed to do that, it's supposed to put a champion where their supposed to be and update them to the current game, it's SUPPOSED to make them stronger because they were much weaker before due to being outdated. The reason Old eve was more Unfair is because her stealth was from the very beginning of the game, pre-6 you can invade her and 90% of the time with any other jungler you win because all her damage is Burst, pre-6 you can place a normal ward and see her coming. Afterwards is when you need to think about her Stealth, i have over 150 games on Evelynn, new evelynn do you know how many times i'v had a problem with Control Wards while playing her? Like legit 2 games, 2, no one control wards, or if they do they don't put them in the right place.

It isn't the champions fault, higher ELO player's know to ward against her and play accordingly, she's still strong yes but she's not unbeatable as you imply.

mirAcIeApr 24, 20182 votes

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Well, i have 1 thing to say, new evelynn is actually able to do her job correctly and effectively if you don't play around her, it's as simple as that. A rework is supposed to do that, it's supposed to put a champion where their supposed to be and update them to the current game, it's SUPPOSED to make them stronger because they were much weaker before due to being outdated. The reason Old eve was more Unfair is because her stealth was from the very beginning of the game, pre-6 you can invade her and 90% of the time with any other jungler you win because all her damage is Burst, pre-6 you can place a normal ward and see her coming. Afterwards is when you need to think about her Stealth, i have over 150 games on Evelynn, new evelynn do you know how many times i'v had a problem with Control Wards while playing her? Like legit 2 games, 2, no one control wards, or if they do they don't put them in the right place.

It isn't the champions fault, higher ELO player's know to ward against her and play accordingly, she's still strong yes but she's not unbeatable as you imply.

So basically you're saying that she was unfair because of the minor thing that could have been easily fixed without changing her playstyle completely? At least we agree on something.

vortex37Apr 24, 20184 votes

i said u in reddit nobody cares about evelynn mains, the even quit game , there is no hope they do it buddy. find a new champ or play another game (like me). also 80% of players play in trash elo, and evelynn is so good if u are against trashs. old eve wasn't being picked by trash elo players they couldnt play her

lolipopevelynnApr 24, 20184 votes

Honestly i just want her old W back. Buff her new E to do piercing dmg as compensation for no more charm dmg OR also give her old Q back( or better yet give her the CD reduction for hitting champions). Having to wait on her W is so fucking counter productive to who she is.

Other than that im fine with new eve. Giving her a full revert isnt the answer. Her ult is worlds better than her old ult

SKT ReZaApr 24, 20182 votes

yes, the new one have many problems but the most obvious one is the fact that u can't go out of fights , u have 0 mobility, it is only 3min cooldown ultimate, dmg is so low without q spam , everything sucks buddy everything . ur opinion on W is like me also. her new R is better than old one , maybe ok but rest of kit make her useless af

Sex Crazed EveApr 24, 20181 votes

It's 80 seconds late game without CDR or ultimate hat. If you run precision secondary with presence of mind, you can actually reduce it more than ultimate hat if you get a double kill.

DW DianaApr 24, 20183 votes

I enjoyed the old eve, but love the visuals and ult of the new one. Can we have a bit of both? =P

needHymnApr 24, 20183 votes

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ZerenzaApr 24, 20182 votes

I never have an issue with her Charm, never. You need to play more games and get used it, evelynn isn't hard to play but she is hard to get used to and you have to have a different mind set than other jungler's, it's the same as before she was reworked actually.

Dead flag bluesApr 24, 20183 votes

Allow us at least to build her hybrid. item 3146 item 3147 item 3100 item 1402 item 3117 item 3142 I miss my one shot build

SKT ReZaApr 24, 20181 votes

holy u have exactly same feeling as me , i even sold my acc after evelynn rework i could not learn another champ in diamond level to play, but i backed to game with runes reforged but i cant still play any champs like old eve and hit diamond easily in 100 game. i build red smite to have more duel potential with e att speed buff , holy moly dude good days item 1414 item 3117 item 3146 item 3100 item 3147 item 3151 ( = item 3165 )

Lady HammerlockApr 24, 20183 votes

Right

Because level one permanent stealth was an extremely fun, healthy, and balanced mechanic. Not. Which also made her entire kit practically impossible to balance properly without making her basically useless or broken(+frustrating as hell). On top of that, remember tank Eve when her base damages were too high? Not fun at all.

Honestly, her W is a good ability. People keep making the mistake of feeling like they absolutely have to land the charm, which is not the case, it can still be used as a quick, and quite crippling slow. Also, if ye keep trynna land charm with your E, you deserve all hell that comes for you.

No more tank Eve. The greatest blessing of the rework is how tank Eve quite literally can't exist anymore because Eve's bases are absurdly low now, that she'd actually be useless if she built real tacky like she used to be able to.

And her ult shouldn't be used as just an escape, it's an execute, and in some cases also a gap closer if the opportunity arises.

Her rework was a hit, and fixed most of the problems old Eve had, and made her a much healthier(and easier to balance) champion. The only disappointing thing out of the rework is how they killed AD/hybrid Eve, though it's a small trade off for what she has now.

EliFrostApr 24, 20181 votes

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Right

Because level one permanent stealth was an extremely fun, healthy, and balanced mechanic. Not. Which also made her entire kit practically impossible to balance properly without making her basically useless or broken(+frustrating as hell). On top of that, remember tank Eve when her base damages were too high? Not fun at all.

Honestly, her W is a good ability. People keep making the mistake of feeling like they absolutely have to land the charm, which is not the case, it can still be used as a quick, and quite crippling slow. Also, if ye keep trynna land charm with your E, you deserve all hell that comes for you.

No more tank Eve. The greatest blessing of the rework is how tank Eve quite literally can't exist anymore because Eve's bases are absurdly low now, that she'd actually be useless if she built real tacky like she used to be able to.

And her ult shouldn't be used as just an escape, it's an execute, and in some cases also a gap closer if the opportunity arises.

Her rework was a hit, and fixed most of the problems old Eve had, and made her a much healthier(and easier to balance) champion. The only disappointing thing out of the rework is how they killed AD/hybrid Eve, though it's a small trade off for what she has now.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Cosmic LuxApr 24, 20181 votes

SpongebobIsLifeApr 24, 20181 votes

uh no

AntelathApr 24, 20181 votes

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just do it, new one was a mistake, im here and all evelynn mains on reddit follows me, this new one is actually trash, we need W movement speed buff like old eve and also a cd reset to get out easily (new one u can get out of fight every 2min with your R). bring level 1 stealth back, all evelynn mains quit game but we are only one still playing and she is absolute trash , if u want play evelynn u can easily pick kha shaco elise and be more successful. just do it just revert ur shit

update : she dont have any escape and have 0 cheese or counter jungle potential , totaly garbage i dont know how some ev players say she is good, get fuced in ur jungle and ur lane all game

I dont agree with you, This rework actually made her fun to Play. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

NemeBroApr 24, 20181 votes

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just do it, new one was a mistake, im here and all evelynn mains on reddit follows me, this new one is actually trash

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champion/Evelynn/

You and all the old Eve mains are just wrong, period. Which isn't a surprise. Old Eve didn't exactly attract the best and brightest.

OleandervineApr 24, 20181 votes

Hell to the no. Old Evelynn was terrible, and was a bruiser. New Evelynn has an assassin's kit, as she should have.