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Losing LP for dodging

Instinct32··4 votes·3,319 views

I work hard for my LP and get really frustrated when I am forced to dodge due to people clearly trolling games. I had someone lock 4 squishy champs the first time ( Lux top Nami support ) so I dodge then next time I queue up I have Annie locking top and a Leona telling me she trolled last game . So I dodged and lost about 13 Lp . Basically I am just really pissed of that I was forced to dodge due to idiots . Why do you make it so you lose LP when you dodge it is the only defence you have to prevent playing with idiots. I wouldn’t mind the queue timer lock out but to actually lose Lo is so stupid to punish players for trying to avoid a losing game with trolls. I just want you to hear me out that I think losing LP For dodging games should be removed . I almost lost enough LP to equal losing one game just for wanting to avoid trolls . Please remove losing LP points for dodging games , make the queue timer lock out longer instead please .

Thanks for listening

17 Comments

Chainman32 votes

Ive been an advocate of removing punishments for dodging for awhile. The ban from queue timer can stay but the LP loss should be removed.

Famous Gay Actor3 votes

I've lost promos due to this problem myself. The timer is really punishing, and the LP losses is just salt on the wound.

Chainman33 votes

I dont get the point of LP loss in ranked. I mean if ranked prides itself on "decision making" of you as a player and apparently deciding whether your team comp is bad or an insta loss doesnt fall under that skill, i guess?

Keiaga1 votes

If there was no pinishment for dodging youd get people who dodge every single fame unless yhe team comp was stacked 9-1 in their favor.

Chainman32 votes

There could be a ban timer to stop excessive dodging. But losing LP for dodging is insane.

Keiaga2 votes

Its not insane. it's giving up.

Chainman32 votes

Whats giving up? If i have a full team of adc's against a malphite and rammus im supposed to say "nah we're fine guys" then when im on the defeat screen, im gonna be like "well cant say i didnt see this one coming"

Keiaga2 votes

Every game involves everyone playing with 4 individuals against 5 other individuals. You never know what's going to happen and sometimes you just get a bad deal. Either do everything you can to try and salvage a win by playing through the game, or take the loss and be greatful that it's reduced LP by forfeiting before the game starts.

Chainman31 votes

So what you're saying is champions who are strong against certain champions dont exist? Counter picks dont exist?

Keiaga1 votes

Lmao how did you even get that from my post

Chainman31 votes

Because you make it sound like every game is equal at the start and is played on a fair field, when in reality majority of the game is decided in that first phase. You find out if you have a tilted teammate, if you have a troll, if you have teammates who counter pick themselves, if you have a bad comp, if theres bad team matchups. These require knowledge of the game to know and having that knowledge should be a reward not a loss of LP.

Keiaga1 votes

What I said sounded like I was implying that every game is equal and played on a fair field?

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sometimes you just get a bad deal.

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Either do everything you can to try and **_salvage _**a win by playing through the game, or take the loss and be greatful that it's reduced LP by forfeiting before the game starts.

Chainman31 votes

True let me rephrase that, what you said sounded like it all averages out in the end over 10 or so games.

Now aside from that its not forfeiting for dodging in champ select. Nobody chooses their teammates so why do we get punished for them. If someone wants to play jinx support and the adc then decides hes gonna play mundo adc top decides hes gonna play janna and jungle decides soraka. I cant change their picks, so both ways im most likely going to take an LP loss, but why is that when i didnt pick my teammates. Why punish me for the system?

Keiaga2 votes

Can you imagine if people were allowed to just leave the table after drawing a bad opening hand in literally any type of card game? That chance is part of the game itself. If you can't stand the possibility of getting bad teammates, which is an innate and unavoidable risk of playing with randoms, then find 4 buddies to play flex with.

Chainman31 votes

The analogy to a card game where good, doesnt work here because in a card game the variables are different. Im not talking about "bad" teammates, im talking about people trying to horrendously break the meta or troll. Much like folding in poker, since you brought up card games. Once you choose to fold you're out for the hand, and you dont win or lose any more money (aside from what you already put in). Now card games are a game of chance and using skillful tactics to bluff/outplay your opponent. Theres no bluffing in league, if i have a soraka top i cant bluff that shes a support when shes standing in top. There are no advantages that come with having trolls, or off meta picks (logically speaking). The player playing the off meta champion can still do well through his skill, but theres a meta for a reason.

Keiaga1 votes

A bad teammate is a bad teammate whether they're intentionally trollling or genuinely feeding. The equivalent of bluffing in league is being good or smart enough to carry regardless of underperforming teammates.

Chainman31 votes

I mean idk what you mean by genuinely feeding but if you just mean like bad game feeding i wouldnt say thats a bad teammate. Id rather have a teammate who's trying and doing bad rather than one who is inting or trolling to purposely cost us the game.

"good or smart enough to carry regardless of underperforming teammates." This being said there is unwinnable games for any player of any status. You could put faker in a bronze or silver game and he could still lose games.

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