Yasuo is possibly the easiest champion in the game.

Grabshöck··3 votes·2,711 views

Yasuo - the bane of my existence. An intro some may see and chalk this down to pure anger at the game, but this has been brewing in me since I started playing this game. Yasuo is probably one of the easiest champions in the entire game. Let's explore why; My issue is with his Wind Wall and his passive shield. There are, to my knowledge, only two champions in the entire game that has an ability that blocks all projectiles. One of these, of course, is Yasuo. The other is Braum. Let's look at why Braum would want Yasuo to be balanced a bit. Yasuo's Wind Wall is a fairly wide, placed down wall that blocks all projectiles. He, of course, pays nothing for this; without mana, Yasuo's only limit on how many Wind Walls he can place is how low his cooldowns are. When the wall is struck, Yasuo has no punishment. It's free invulnerability. Braum, on the other hand, has Unbreakable. While it is mobile, a clear advantage, Braum takes some of the damage from it, takes the on-hit effects, and has a mana cost. While Yasuo's Wind Wall is immobile, he literally has a better defensive shield than a support character designed entirely around the concept of a burly man with a giant door for a shield. That seems to be a little bit of an issue, at least to me. Either make Braum a little stronger by making Unbreakable have Wind Wall's qualities, or nerf Wind Wall. Further augmenting Yasuo's defensive powers, especially in lane, is his passive shield. With most champions, any attack that is not blocked by Wind Wall, despite its decent cooldown time, will be blocked mostly by his shield. It's one thing to have a Jax that can block auto attacks, because he has to pay for that, along with the fact that auto attacks cost nothing, but, if playing a projectile reliant character, using an ability and having it blocked by Wind Wall is literally throwing mana down the drain, with no cost to Yasuo. My solution to this is two-pronged; first off, remove his passive shield. Past laning phase, it isn't useful, but in lane, it makes him basically invulnerable to pokes, and therefore makes harass something you simply cannot do. To take it's place, Yasuo gets his very own, bright and shiny, MANA BAR. The reason I'm fine with Jax's Counter Strike is because it is mana intensive. Jax blocks a lot of damage, but he pays for it. If Yasuo paid for it too, it would be balanced. I'm fine with my skillshots being blocked by an invulnerable wall - so long as he has some kind of cost to himself. Mana solves this issue. Will Yasuo players be mad? Undoubtedly. Will Yasuo become more balanced if he can't haphazardly spam his abilities? Certainly. Will he still be able to laugh at Braum? No. He's actually going to have a reason to stand behind Braum. Rito, I ask you, please, give Yasuo a mana bar. It will fix literally every issue I see in his kit. An easy, guaranteed critical ult? At least he can run out of mana. One of the most spammable dodges in the game? At least he has to pay for it. Rito, plz. Stop this. For Braum.

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Zaghyr1 votes

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Oh My God Yes

redniwediS7 votes

Personal skill really plays into who does well with what champion, so the answer to what champion is the easiest is completely relative.

Grabshöck1 votes

This is true. That being said, though, why is his defense stronger than Braum's? Is there some reason that I just missed along the way that Yasuo literally pays nothing to have a stronger shield than his?

redniwediS4 votes

Because Braum's job is to add his defense to another champion, where as Yasuo has to rely on himself.

Grabshöck1 votes

Okay, but Yasuo can provide that defense to another champion, while paying no price, while Braum has to use mana and sacrifice his own health, even if it isn't that much in the long run, to do that. If you had the choice to run behind a Wind Wall or an Unbreakable, what's to stop you from choosing the Wind Wall?

redniwediS3 votes

Nothing will stop you from choosing whichever one you want, that's the great part about free will.

However one of these champions will be diving into the enemy team, where as the other will be playing defense and protecting those around him. I cannot tell you which one you will pick, but based on this I can say if you are a front liner you should choose the wind wall, where as if you are a mid/back liner you should choose unbreakable.

Grabshöck1 votes

The point I'm trying to make here is that Yasuo needs some kind of a cost for his Wind Wall. Personally, I would hide behind a Wind Wall every time. If I have some kind of homing projectile coming at me, like a Veigar ult, Braum would have to tank that damage for me, but if it hits the Wind Wall, Yasuo loses nothing.

Lord Dusteon2 votes

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Okay, but Yasuo can provide that defense to another champion, while paying no price, while Braum has to use mana and sacrifice his own health, even if it isn't that much in the long run, to do that. If you had the choice to run behind a Wind Wall or an Unbreakable, what's to stop you from choosing the Wind Wall?

Out of the 2 one is stronger in straight basic numbers, and the other is infinitely stronger in practice. Yasuo's W does destroy projectiles, but it's on a long cooldown and is his main defensive tool; if he doesn't block a high priority spell or attack he failed. Additionally, his wall is static; if an enemy goes past it that wall does not exist. Braum's wall while only destroying one projectile can be moved, letting Braum counter enemies trying to move around him to hurt his teammates. Additionally, it has a MUCH lower cooldown (10 seconds compared to 18, and Braum actually likes buying some CDR unlike Yasuo). Overall, Braum's is better in almost every situation due to his ability to move the wall in addition to keeping it up much longer.

Grabshöck2 votes

Well said, but the fact that Yasuo has a shield that basically blocks one full attack means that in lane, that cooldown is essentially nil. I'm not going to deny that Braum moving his wall isn't a clear advantage, but Yasuo's stays up for quite a while, and it's got next to zero cast time, meaning the likelihood of not blocking a high priority projectile is low, unless you're just extremely bad at predicting people's movements.

Zaghyr1 votes

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Okay, but Yasuo can provide that defense to another champion, while paying no price, while Braum has to use mana and sacrifice his own health, even if it isn't that much in the long run, to do that. If you had the choice to run behind a Wind Wall or an Unbreakable, what's to stop you from choosing the Wind Wall?

The difference is that Braum can move his shield, Yasuo can't. If Yasuo misplaces his wall he's screwed, But braum can not only move around with bonus movespeed, but he can jump to an ally for even more repositioning.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

I didn't know Yasuo can move his windwall, give allies resistances and CC with basic attacks.

Grabshöck1 votes

I already said that Braum had a clear advantage in that he could move his wall, but Yasuo has the defensive advantage in actually using his. Wasn't comparing their entire kits, just the two projectile blockers. Pay attention, please.

Reynard the ƒox3 votes

Let me put this issue to rest for you.

He is not the easiest champion in the game. He's not even close.

Now you can rest easy.

Grabshöck1 votes

I'll give you that, the title was a little hastily thrown on there. But he still does need a mana bar, in my opinion. Either that, or Unbreakable needs to be stronger.

Indominus Blade3 votes

Yasuo is one of the highest skill cap champions in the game. It is funny how all the "hurr durr X champion is OP/easy/freelo" never play said champion. Go play Yasuo, get diamond 1, he is sooooooooo strong and easy right? His windwall blocks EVERYTHING ZOMG! COSTS NO MANA!!! W00000T!

Go, get diamond 1 with Yasuo, I'll wait :^)

redniwediS3 votes

With a little of my favorite argument style, reductio ad absurdum, I can tell you to do the same about Garen and laugh at you when you fail to reach Diamond 1 with Garen.

What champion has the highest skill cap is a useless question, as the difference between that champion and many other champions is negligible at best.

Indominus Blade1 votes

What a surprise, a clueless post made by a low elo player. "difference between Yasuo and Garen is negligible". ROFL.

redniwediS2 votes

I take it reading comprehension is not a required skill for Gold 1...

I'll just be down here in Gold 5 reading and understanding.

Indominus Blade1 votes

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I take it reading comprehension is not a required skill for Gold 1...

I'll just be down here in Gold 5 reading and understanding.

Gold 1 with 90% win rate and platinum 2 mmr, yes, totally not a diamond smurf :) You talk about intellect, yet ironically can't comprehend basic stats such as win rate and KDA, epic fail. Stay low elo, you deserve it.

redniwediS3 votes

Gold 1 with a 90% win rate and Platnum 2 MMR, and yet you can't seem to be able to go back and reread a rather basic sentence to avoid making yourself look like a fool. Exactly how dense are you?

If you're going to keep stroking your ego instead of looking back to correct your mistake there's no real reason for me to reply to you further.

Indominus Blade1 votes

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Gold 1 with a 90% win rate and Platnum 2 MMR, and yet you can't seem to be able to go back and reread a rather basic sentence to avoid making yourself look like a fool. Exactly how dense are you?

If you're going to keep stroking your ego instead of looking back to correct your mistake there's no real reason for me to reply to you further.

You are the dense one, you talk nonsense, your 1200 mmr reflects your lack of game knowledge and skill, that is why you make idiotic statements such as: "difference between Yasuo and Garen is negligible".

But you are emotionally invested in that statement, you play 0 mechanix and 0 skill champs like Garen and Nasus, of course you want to believe that statement, it suits your interest.

redniwediS4 votes

I really shouldn't be doing this, as someone who is unwilling to learn simply will not learn, but I'll tell you why you're wrong.

I never said Garen and Yasuo are even remotely close to one another when it comes to skill.

There. I did your work for you. Do you understand your idiocy now? God damn man, learn to read before you go on a rant.

OrphanerDualscar2 votes

So he just happened to place gold out of sheer luck, right? I bet it had absolutely nothing to do with skill at all . Also please tell us more about how Garen and Nasus take no skill or mechanics. Every single champion takes skill and mechanics or else you just feed and lose. If you're good enough with a champion, and know how to play the different matchups, it's the skill that matters, not the champion.

Indominus Blade1 votes

Garen and Nasus take skill

hahahahah, made my day.

redniwediS2 votes

Glad you finally learned to read. Next on your list should be learning to not be an asshat.

Myrddin2 votes

Warwick exists

he doesnt even have a skill shot of any sort, he only has 3 abilities, outside of summoners, that he can even use really.

Grabshöck2 votes

Okay, but having a single character that counters him doesn't change the fact that he is a direct counter to most mid laners. Assassins don't suffer nearly as much, but casters like Ziggs, Ahri, and Lux can do just about nothing against him, because everything they have is a projectile.

Myrddin2 votes

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Okay, but having a single character that counters him doesn't change the fact that he is a direct counter to most mid laners. Assassins don't suffer nearly as much, but casters like Ziggs, Ahri, and Lux can do just about nothing against him, because everything they have is a projectile.

I'm going for easiest champion in the game here, i don't care about your yasuo is easy and op crap.

Grabshöck1 votes

If I could change the title, I would. It was written hastily. That being said, thanks for at least attempting to put up some kind of argument.

NemeBro2 votes

Not only is Yasuo not easy, he is in fact pretty hard, and also not particularly good. Some would argue bad.

Grabshöck2 votes

A relatively easy to land ult, defense with no cost, and to top it all off, a build that really only needs one item to make him more than viable, even into the late game. I've yet to see a single person tell me a single reason why Yasuo is so difficult. Just a lot of people saying that he is. Please, provide examples.

supes the lost1 votes

I personally, cannot even come close to successfully winning a game playing as Yasuo, landing his Q's while dodging enemy spells with e and w takes positioning and planning to make sure you don't waste either or take a hit from a spell without your passive. He doesn't build any defensive items so a bad plays can result in you getting bursted down quickly, and on top of that, almost everything in his kit has been hit in one way or another with nerfs (though I will admit he was really overbearing on release and deserved at least some of the nerfs).

Edit: He also takes quick and precise movements to make use of his e and q so that you do actually click minions and Q the enemies without messing up.

Grabshöck2 votes

Same can be said for almost any assassin in the game. Getting bursted down quickly is a matter of life to squishies, and making a bad play is almost constantly going to get you killed. Not to mention that quick and precise movements and pretty common amongst most assassins. The difference is, those assassins don't have two built in safety nets for when you screw up.

Radnar the bold1 votes

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A relatively easy to land ult

I almost choked on my coffee......The ult is "easy" in a 1v1 because you have to predict where they are going and then bop it out, yet it is easily dodged with any mobile mid laner (aka leblanc, ez, etec). During a team fight good luck trying to proc off two qs without getting focused, then good luck getting more than one person in that tornado ult.

His ult is great when you have a knockup on your team, but even then you have to have an eye out, for you could miss your chance. Yasou has a mobile kit that gets shat on by any tank, he seems easy, because a good yasou player knows the kit very very well and knows when to E, when to Q,Q and when to time that windwall. Please go play the champ before saying they are OP.

Grabshöck2 votes

While his tornado can be somewhat easy to dodge, with the right character, playing a mid laner without high mobility basically makes you rely on the enemy Yasuo casting it from a long range, already almost guaranteeing his miss. As for team fights - most people that I've seen play Yasuo proc it on the way to the fight and just toss it through while everybody is trying to take down the main damage dealers. Wind Wall's fast cast time makes it so that it isn't even a prediction, it's just fast reaction time. And, for the record, I never said he was overpowered, simply too easy. Even if you consider it difficult to land that Q, he has two built in safety nets against anybody that relies on ranged attacks, neither of which cost him anything other than a cooldown.

jDVL20eCYs1 votes

he is not easy. but he is incredible toxic to lane against. if you not have a good early game jungler the nows what he is doing.

Grabshöck2 votes

He has enough built in damage mitigation that the toxicity you speak of makes him overpowered, in my opinion. Nobody else has that level of protection in lane. Granted, he is gankable, but I shouldn't have to rely on my jungler to help me win my lane.

Señor Karthus1 votes

As much as I hate playing against him, I consider him one of the hardest champions to play and when they kill me I feel like "hats off to you sir" because I know how fucking hard it is.

warpenguin5551 votes

ok no. not even close.

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