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Unenjoyable ranked , is the game dying?

Ekaaali··4 votes·1,607 views

Hello there Summoners,

I`m a d3 player with an overall 56%wr.

I just went on a 12 winstreak where i gained 13/14lp average, well ok sure. Thinking it would change my lp losses after that was a mistake, so i won 12 in a row and lost the last game, realising i lost 23lp when still gaining 14lp

How on earth is this balanced, i`m slowly starting to enjoy this game less and less.

This was an issue in preseason , but when i said something about it they just ignored it cause "Everything would be getting fixed in the actual season 9" That`s definitely not the case.

I just dont know how long ill still enjoy the adventures of climbing in this kind of way, maybe soon after almost 8 years i should go. Ive always enjoyed the game to its fullest, but i feel like the game doesnt gives me enough anymore.

Its sad, but maybe true to admit the game isnt as good as it used to be.

I hope they fix this or i`m out.

I wish you all a great day <3

-Ekaali

17 Comments

Deliberate Inter3 votes

I have fun every game I play as do all of my sociable teammates. It's a friendly and fun loving atmosphere in ranked, aram is different

Ekaaali1 votes

I dont want to be the guy that comes with a rank comment, but you are Iron 3, i am playing in high dia, which is not comparable. Also the lp gains and losses are completely different, so your comment is more of the less useless in my case. Dont feel attacked cause that`s not what i want ofcourse.

Moonscourge3 votes

Why would t he game be dying because YOU don't enjoy playing?

You probably hit your peak skill level and it's frustrating to play because you don't really make any improvements or feel like you lack any impact on the outcome of the game. Don't force yourself to play it if you no longer enjoy it. Take a more casual approach, play less and just every now and then and maybe you start enjoying it again.

Copic2 votes

https://i.imgur.com/RehChzx.png

The highest point you see in the middle is the end of season 3, more accurately Sept 2013. Any other point you can see where the searches for 'league of legends' on google trends is always november or october, meaning they only spike because of worlds.

Other than that the game has been on a steady decline sense October 2015, which was the end of season 5 and showcased worlds. Statistics don't lie.

Ekaaali1 votes

I wont argue with statistics, but the reason im asking is cause i just have the feeling it is.

Ekaaali2 votes

I guess you missed my point, by playing less the cause of enjoying the game less won`t go away. Also i do still enjoy playing, but with the current issue with lp gains/losses its just less.

So basically if i keep winning 66% of my games, i will sort of stay at the same disvision, so in order to actually climb i need to go to 70% or above.

For me this seems very strange and weird in comparisson to some seasons before "Like 4/5 where i got masters".

Also "You probably hit your peak" That doesn`t make sense either, due the fact i won 12 out of my last 13 games.

Also containing a well above 50% wr, but okay

Ekaaali1 votes

I guess you missed my point, by playing less the cause of enjoying the game less won`t go away. Also i do still enjoy playing, but with the current issue with lp gains/losses its just less.

So basically if i keep winning 66% of my games, i will sort of stay at the same disvision, so in order to actually climb i need to go to 70% or above.

For me this seems very strange and weird in comparisson to some seasons before "Like 4/5 where i got masters".

Also "You probably hit your peak" That doesn`t make sense either, due the fact i won 12 out of my last 13 games.

Also containing a well above 50% wr, but okay.

Why would t he game be dying because YOU don't enjoy playing? About that, its not because of just me as an idividual, its about more higher elo players, that struggle with the same problem, some even having 65/70% winrates.

That`s my issue

Inkling Commando2 votes

i think the problem is a vast majority of players play the game for ranked purposes and with ranked a shit volcano that is constantly erupting they end up leaving cause they don't enjoy it anymore and that leaves only a few die hard players that refuse to leave ranked and the players who don't do ranked and hang in norms. with both of those bases being small already it leaves the game in a weakened state and riot don't know what to do to fix it.

Starcraft243ver1 votes

So you are diamond and you still dont know how Lps works. That's definitely a problem.

Hint : the problem is not the game.

Ekaaali1 votes

Ive been playing the game since season 2, reached masters in season 4, but sure Mr.IKnowAlot what are you thoughts the cause of this would be ? Instead of telling me "You dont know how it works" you could also explain me if you think so ?

Starcraft243ver1 votes

When you are playing in the lower ranks you "just" need winrate >50% to climb.

Now when you reach the top of the ladder (congratz on that), everyone around you has more than 50% winrate already. So in order to climb you have to have a better winrate than the people you compete against.

This translates into :

  • You will always lose more Lps per lose than you win per win.
Ekaaali1 votes

That`s true, and i know it works like that, but +14 -23, seems a bit too absurd to me when you just had a 12 win streak, tell me if im wrong. So based on this gain and loss i need to sustain a 65/70% winrate with my following games in order to even get climbing, when im not even talking on division promotion, but just the climb in the same division.

Starcraft243ver1 votes

14 x W - 23 x L = 0 <=> W = (23 / 14) L <=> W = 1.643 L

You have to get 1.643 Wins for every of your loses.

Given than Winrate = W / (L + W)

You have to keep a winrate of : 1.643 / ( 1 + 1.643) = 62% Winrate minimum.

While I agree it's a lot, It not impossible and it seems a "legit" winrate at the highest levels of play.

Now keep in mind you only gave us ONE occurence of a -23 for a lose, maybe the mean mmr of your opponents was way below your team's mean mmr on this particular game, thus "punishing" you more for losing to an underdog.

Ephixus2 votes

{quoted}

So you are diamond and you still dont know how Lps works. That's definitely a problem.

Hint : the problem is not the game.

So wrong, I've already seen more posts across EUW and NA that people facing wrong LP distribution eventhough if their win/los ratio is significantly better than average.

Starcraft243ver1 votes

I suggest you read the discussion that followed. I've yet to see a single unexplained example of wrong LPs distribution.

Ephixus2 votes

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I suggest you read the discussion that followed. I've yet to see a single unexplained example of wrong LPs distribution.

No idea why u're still here, your arguments are delusional.

Starcraft243ver1 votes

I've yet to see any actual argument backing up your side. By arguments I meant facts, not cognitive bias or contextless numbers.

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