This is sort of a complaint thread. Aram tends to get boring when there’s the same few champions in almost every game.
Morgana, Blitz, Teemo, and Fiddlesticks are incredibly common and all annoying to play vs.
Players with lower champion pools have an advantage because they do not have as many champs. They’ll be able to play champs that they have more experience with.
What would the harm be if this was implemented?
420 grams22 votesThen they would have to change the name from Sorta Random All Mid to All Random All Mid.
Velzard of Koz4 votesAnd I wouldn't be able to look at Free Rotation and say "Oh so these are the champs I'll see in every game".
DracosKasu12 votesI think the aram of Hots is better in general since all champ are unlock and then you have to choose brtween one of the 3 champ offer.
Quort2 votesOh I like that! I always hated getting stuck with a Champion I dislike and never had any intention of playing (it's also worse if the Champion is bad in ARAM and you don't even know how to play them effectively). This solution would make that scenario less likely while still making it mostly random!
Hethalean10 votescuz they don't want random ARAM.
Bunnymap11 votesIt's more like they don't want their entire ARAM only audience to quit the game
Lauchmelder18 votesI might sound biased against ARAM accounts:
Boo fucking hoo
Verandure8 votesBut they wouldn't?
I've only really played ARAM since it came out and would love this.
Bunnymap6 votesSpecifically the people who create ARAM only accounts with only the powerful champions.
Verandure1 votesI guess that's fair.
sir d wreck2 votesAnd sad people would make an account just for that.
TempName748144 votesaram stackers aren't people
Velzard of Koz4 votesDepends. I am ARAM main and I don't have specified pool for ARAM. Not sure who's in majority here, but there are those of us who both main ARAM and aren't "ARAM account".
Squey2 votesactually alot of people dont play aram as much BECAUSE of these aram account cheaters.
ahferroin71 votesI'd argue that it's more likely that they think that the allure of being able to trade more freely will incentivize purchases.
ShishouMatt10 votesThey need to scale your rerolls by the amount of champs you have. 2 rerolls with all champs unlocked compared to someone with 20 champs is just ignorant.
Also when you enter a champ select screen... The champ you had will carry over to the next match if someone dodges. This would reduce dodging by a fair bit since they get that champion again when they try to play ARAM after buffer time.
cuddlykitten49 votesYou do get a 1 point bonus towards your next reroll for each champ that you have. I have almost every champ, and I personally don't feel like my rerolls are any more wasted than when my account was younger. I might even say I feel they're less of a waste considering that I get a new reroll after most games I play. After 2 games my rerolls are usually maxed out again. I also feel that if I had something like (random number) 10 rerolls that I could just reroll a handful of times and hand free champs via trades to my teammates. Could probably abuse that to straight up decide what comp you want each game.
RenownedWheat427 votesBeen wanting this forever, really.
Void Nargacuga7 votesI can definitely agree with this
Pika Fox3 votesLots.
I dont want to play champions i dont own.
You already have a legion of people who reroll 2x then dodge if they dont get a good champ, theyll just do this far more and more often.
The biggest reason you see this isnt because of aram accounts, its because people reroll then dodge, meaning youre only going to get games where people get good picks. Especially since youre only going to RR either bad picks or champs you cant play.
If you want to see less of this, wed need a better solution to people dodging, opening all champs wont fix it, and it will make it frustrating for people who dont own complex champs and dont want to play them. Especially if theyre also not good in the game mode.
Bijeesny2 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=33uEte13,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-03-17T04:33:13.331+0000)
- I dont want to play champions i dont own.
The point of ARAM is to play a random champion, even if you don't own /dont know how to play him. Unlocking all champions would be a good change
Pika Fox2 votesNo, it would not. Random as in the random button as in random for whatever champs you own.
Bijeesny1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=33uEte13,comment-id=000900010000,timestamp=2018-03-17T16:32:37.802+0000)
No, it would not. Random as in the random button as in random for whatever champs you own.
It would be great if you could explain ur opinion :))))
Pika Fox1 votesARAM stands for all random all mid; before ARAM was an official game mode it was a custom game mode in which everyone hit the random button once or locked in without selecting anyone, giving them a random champion from the pool they owned.
ARAM isnt any less random just because someone owns more or less champions. The biggest thing killing the randomness isnt "aram accounts", its people with 10s of accounts so they can dodge if they dont get a good champ. Dodging is the biggest issue.
Tzuyu Is My Bias1 votesFor me it only makes it fun to play champs I rarely play. Sometimes I just hope to get my main or some strong aram champion, sometimes I'm happy about getting an unfamiliar champ, especially if they aren't a very good aram champ.
Automated Riven1 votesI mean,, every time I play aram I wanna get randomed riven. But I am not gonna set up an account so that its more likely.
Rezial Dexer3 votesThis would also screw over getting chests though, since you cant get a chest on a champ you dont own, so :/ uck
OP Garen Support3 votesLike you ever get S rank on aram where you have to "farm" and must die to get build.
Rezial Dexer1 votesI have often enough to have to w8 for chest reroll, seeing as i nearly only aram. Heck i got my pulsefire exreal from a aram obtained chest.
Automated Riven1 votesI have gotten tons of s's in aram.
2Charmnot2Charm1 votesImplying people get S ranks in high mmr Aram games anyways.
Rezial Dexer1 votesI have fairly often, heck i got one not to long ago, its where i got all my chests. not implying im in whatever you'd consider high mmr, though just that i often get chests in aram
2Charmnot2Charm1 votesConsidering the fact your aram mmr is top 30% while my aram mmr is top 1% i shouldn't be surprised you can get S ranks often.
Tzuyu Is My Bias4 votesSomeone actually looking at and caring about aram MMR is a new thing to me. I play aram when I do NOT want to care about skill level or rank.
Mr Dalloway3 votesEh. I own every champion and basically play ARAM (or rotating game modes) 90% of the time because I got bored of Summoner's Rift. For a while I thought I was at a disadvantage playing against people who had so called "ARAM accounts" with only the best champions but it helped me learn to be better (if not good) at most champs at least in this setting.
Even though there are a bunch of champs (ie Ziggs, Teemo, Vel'koz, Zyra, Sion) that are oppressive in ARAM it is more about the random combo that each team got and each persons ability to adapt to that. When I first started playing I thought that melee champs were just boned in this mode and had no chance. But between mark and learning how to play effectively and which items are most effective melee can carry just as well as poke champs. It really comes down to the luck of the dice. Even people with a limited pool of champs are going to get stuck with the free rotation champs sometimes.
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Killer of Night91 votesDominion has been forgotten like the new mode definetely not dominion. Sound very cool if they implement some ban phas to get out of the same boring champs aka lux cait jinx ziggs xerath sona veigar... Getting trundle/udyr/garen feel a no logic sense to play and everytime i get fiora/camille/riven i always lost the game or i need to be carried by the adc/poke mage of our team
Ok sure but why2 votesI just want to choose my champ in blind pick all mid tbh
MagicalDemons3 votesthere are custom games people make named "abam" which stands for "all blind all mid". search them up since some one is usually hosting.
Ayzev3 votesSo poro king, but without the poro king?
Ok sure but why1 votesExactly! That's literally the only reason I ever played Poro King in the first place!
revliledpembroke2 votesSmite does this. You also have to pay for rerolls with their blue essence or RP equivalents (though, to be fair, they offer a lot of in game ways to get their RP equivalent, so it isn't as bad as is it sounds).
It also has a higher rate of teammates who dc than just about any other mode. Take of that what you will
SociopathFriend2 votes{quoted} What would the harm be if this was implemented?
It was never the point of ARAM to give you all champions- nothing in the game forces you to buy all the champions. If you want to own them all, that's your problem. I've not bought 10 or so certain champions that I don't want to play (mostly ADCs) and have no reason to buy them in League, period. Why do I have to be forced to play champions I don't like and didn't buy because I didn't like them?
That's not the point of ARAM, no matter how much the community complains it is.
Tactical Barrels1 votesAt least Graves, he's pretty fun.
SociopathFriend1 votesI do own Graves I think. I don't own Shaco (I hate him) or Vayne or Kallista or Kas'Sai or Kindred or Lucian. That's 6 or so.
I don't own Azir I don't think, I know I don't own (or want) Zoe. I don't think I own Zed nor do I want him, same for Rengar, and Yasuo. I don't have Kayne either.
That's about 12 champions. Some of which I intend to buy and simply haven't yet. Others like Vayne and Shaco I have no intention of ever buying. And you know what- I don't have to. Most LoL players want to buy every champion for the, "Gotta catch em all" disease. That is not my problem.
Tactical Barrels1 votesSame, playing since season 2. I have the IP for them but I don't wanna ruin my arams.
TempName748142 votes"o boi, i get to play my main, yasuo!"
enemy team: 
my team: 
DevlinCrow2 votesARAM only player here.
Not seen those champs in aaages. Rarely see the same champs consecutively.
The harm?
Someone might not buy Nunu because they think he's boring af. They get Nunu in ARAM, now they have to sit through 20+ mins of boring ass gameplay.
And what for?
ARAM is not competitive and it's way more dependent on comp, rather than individual player skill/champ pools.
PaffWasTaken2 votesAt this point, i'm starting to think that Riot enjoys seeing people making ARAM-accounts. I can imagine them being like "Hey look, more accounts! This totally means that our game isn't becoming less popular! Right?"
Saezio1 votesOr rename to ORAM OwenRandomAllMid
