Two small buffs for Garen that will put him in a perfect spot.

Magister Ludii·Aug 11, 2016·5 votes·652 views

Buff #1: Base movement speed increased to 345 from 340.

Just some early game mobility so he's a little more slippery and has better synergy with movement speed items.

Buff #2: Judgment base spin now increased to 6 from 5. Garen gets a new spin every 4 levels instead of 3, until lvl 13 where he gets a spin in 3 levels (for 10 spins at lvl 16)

So, Garen gets 6/7/8/9/10 spins at levels 1/5/9/13/16

Just little tweaks to his early game. That's all he needs. Nothing more. A little power in the early game and he's fine.

8 Comments

Critmaster GarenAug 11, 20162 votes

almost every single one of his defensive items got health nerfs this season. except for sunfire which became more expensive.

imo the problem is his 4 to 6 item effectiveness after a bunch of indirect nerfs.

lategame defense buffs, and the 5 base ms and 5% movement speed back on his q for the boot nerfs should do the trick.

Edo1996Aug 11, 20161 votes

Won't be enough since he still falls off late game,unless he solos the villain but that's it. He needs a rework not a buff he is a toxic champ

Noam2KillAug 11, 20161 votes

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Won't be enough since he still falls off late game,unless he solos the villain but that's it. He needs a rework not a buff he is a toxic champ

Right now it's better to max Q instead of max E in lane, even against melee matchups. E base damage is so low it's absurd.

SasogwaAug 11, 20162 votes

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Won't be enough since he still falls off late game,unless he solos the villain but that's it. He needs a rework not a buff he is a toxic champ

So no, he doesn't actually fall off that hard late game with a black cleaver tank build. And how the fuck is he toxic? He's unbelievably predictable and easy to kite. That would make him one of the healthiest champions out there.

Edo1996Aug 11, 20161 votes

He has a passive that heals for STANDING out of combat. That is so fucking boring and toxic (not op but still) And he is useless in late,when I play ADC in teamfights I just ignore him because he is just a meatshield,ask anyone higher than plat and they will tell you he is shit

SasogwaAug 12, 20161 votes

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He has a passive that heals for STANDING out of combat. That is so fucking boring and toxic (not op but still) And he is useless in late,when I play ADC in teamfights I just ignore him because he is just a meatshield,ask anyone higher than plat and they will tell you he is shit

I'm higher than plat And healing out of combat is toxic now? Wow the world has really evolved. I thought thousand dashes and perma CC were toxic, but I guess we gotta bow before the almighty healing out of combat.

Edo1996Aug 12, 20161 votes

Read my thread again all he is is a meatshield with out of combat regen,and yes he is toxic he punishes you for doing good even Rioter said that the villain passive is toxic