The Meta

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I see a horrible problem with this game that has persisted throughout the past few years, and that is simply the meta. It revolves around fifteen champions at a time and if you use anything but them, you typically are at a steep disadvantage or your just plain lose due to inefficiency.

Evelynn Azir Ivern Kalista (still) Kog'Maw Rengar

These champions and plenty more are basically just crappy versions of more meta champions.

Yasuo Orianna (Barely) Rakan Twitch/Vayne Caitlyn Kha'zix/Shaco

You play a competitive game like this, whether in blind or ranked, to do well and have fun. You cannot have fun or do well when using a champion that is outdated and at a disadvantage. They are just outclassed by others and simply have no reason to be played besides "Fuck it, let's do something weird" or "I have a weird urge to play this champ". This usually ends in you not doing as well as your main, which is probably a meta champion, and you never play them until the next urge.

The Meta is way too strong in this game. You can outright just lose because you picked a lower tier champion, and in a game like this? That is bad. It's not hard to change numbers around in coding. Literally would just need tweaks here and there for balancing but I suppose Rito is too busy looking at the next event, skin or champion to bother fixing the older/unusable ones.

I win games just fine on certain champs but struggle on others simply because they don't do enough in their kit. I just want a fun, balanced game; Instead of the top heavy farce this is.

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Death by Glamour2 votes

orianna has been meta since season 3...

twitch is stupidly strong

ivern is still one of the best junglers

on hit kogmaw is way under the radar atm

UTGasterBlaster1 votes

The bottom list were replacements of the top list. Off-meta vs Meta.

Limmie2 votes

Yasuo is a replacedment to Evelynn? In which parallel universe is this thread taking place?

Takazaki3 votes

post rework yasuo

he is now a stealth jungler, but they kept his q because something something champion identity

Jmman3 votes

The message is still on point.

Some champs face roll with 2 or 3 kills and others can't kill the same champ up 4 or 5k gold.

You know people don't all play a champ because he is fun to play. They play a champ because winning is fun. I love TahmKench but you can't play him if ranked or you will instantly lose the lane at champ select.

Ahri Ekko Darius Fiora Fizz Gnar Graves Irelia LeeSin Orianna Renekton Riven Thresh Yasuo Warwick Zac This are the champs I have issues with. They have either too much of things or over loaded kits. Champs should not have damage tankish mobility etc. This are also the champs once get a few kills they are retarded. Sure a lot of these are noob stompers but they seem to be over tuned in one way or another.

UTGasterBlaster2 votes

Here's an example. My recent game was Aurelion Sol matched vs Annie. I couldn't do jack squat. She had for sure stuns and damage that didn't rely on being in a circle of stars and their placement in said circle. I mean I didn't play my best either but A. Sol definitely can't do anything against people with burst damage and an easy stun. He just falters and dies. Star Forger my ass, he dies easily to little girls with fire.

Darkone70011 votes

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Here's an example. My recent game was Aurelion Sol matched vs Annie. I couldn't do jack squat. She had for sure stuns and damage that didn't rely on being in a circle of stars and their placement in said circle. I mean I didn't play my best either but A. Sol definitely can't do anything against people with burst damage and an easy stun. He just falters and dies. Star Forger my ass, he dies easily to little girls with fire.

The thing with sol is he is super hard to play and very awkward to use, Personally I like him but he has SO many caster and assassin mid counters that he is a super situation pick 90% of the time, if its an assassin in general your screwed if its like fizz or syndra your also screwed, he has strengths but his weaknesses can be much more obvious sometimes as he can't insta burst his Q and his ult is his only peel, and his W drains mana like the IRS does money from my bank account.

UTGasterBlaster1 votes

Here's another example. Today I spent a game of Rek'sai top vs Yasuo. I was owning him until his Phantom Dancer. He instantly starts out-damaging me with just that vs my Rav Hydra and simply auto-wins. The fact that an assassin item has both tank and assassin elements and basically makes Yasuo, a super meta champion, a god, is a problem. Yasuo is too strong and needs a nerf soon. He's played almost every game and does well no matter what or who is playing him.

Darkone70011 votes

I don't think he is ultra busted, because I'm really bad and win lane against him with kled most games. But I do think his kit is way to overloaded, he has an answer for literally every situation and has 2 really strong passives, when he gets ahead he gets ahead hard, but I tend to be able to shut him down early so hes useless late game, I would suggest champions like heimerdinger, Darius, Kled. (These champions almost always win lane against him for me) I just all in him at level 2 or 3 and snowball my lane, but I know not everyone is good with these champs, that's just the only advice I can give, and frankly phantom dancer is a tad to op, its made adc and some assassins very hard to deal with. Yasuo just needs something tweaked or removed like one of his passives or a cooldown increase on his dashs, it just gives him way to much flexibility and outplay potential. Not overpowered, just overloaded, That's my opinion anyways. Darius Kled Heimerdinger

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