With these recent changes he's going to be unplayable in lane because the 50% bonus damage to minions on E has for some reason been removed, can I ask why? This just completely kills lane fiddle :( Sion has bonus damage to minions and monsters at different %s so why can't fiddle?
Who Fed Ru3 votesCause lane fiddle is just a uninteractive cheese pick
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Cause lane fiddle is just a uninteractive cheese pick
Until you Relic Shield Fiddle with a high winrate as support.
Who Fed Ru2 votesSupport fiddle won't be affected anyway, as long as you don't intend to completely piss off your ADC.
BobaFlautist4 votesIf anything it's a buff to support fiddle, it was so incredibly hard to avoid stealing farm.
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Support fiddle won't be affected anyway, as long as you don't intend to completely piss off your ADC.
If anything it's a buff to support fiddle, it was so incredibly hard to avoid stealing farm.
I just stated relic shield. You kinda want to kill farm to get your adc farm.
Clearly it is a NERF and affects him.
Who Fed Ru1 votesI mean if you use your E to proc relic shield on Fiddle you automatically push the wave and that's not what you want anyway.
Just communicate with your ADC and use your autos, like you should do anyway. The last thing a ADC needs is his support throwing his AoE on the wave.
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I mean if you use your E to proc relic shield on Fiddle you automatically push the wave and that's not what you want anyway.
Just communicate with your ADC and use your autos, like you should do anyway. The last thing a ADC needs is his support throwing his AoE on the wave.
As if you don't push the wave as a tank. You realize gold income is best used when used right?
Disabling your passive is the dumbest thing you can do. That is what frost does. And E is used for poking. But it bounces. Have you even played fiddle?
Who Fed Ru1 votesWhats your point?
Yes, you use your E to poke. Nothing of that is affected. But you shouldn't use your E to push the wave as support.
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Whats your point?
Yes, you use your E to poke. Nothing of that is affected. But you shouldn't use your E to push the wave as support.
You shouldn't use your E to punish your passive on frost either.
What is your point? You like killing your potential?
Who said you use your E directly on minions either?
Use more broken logic.
Who Fed Ru1 votesWhat? ...
That's why it's a buff. You have lower damage against minions, so you are less likely to accidentally kill minions with your E.
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What? ...
That's why it's a buff. You have lower damage against minions, so you are less likely to accidentally kill minions with your E.
The fact you can't control it means you will eventually proc that disable passive. You shoot yourself in the foot now with fiddles. I don't see why this is hard to understand.
The nerf hit him so hard his E is trash against minions, which literally kills his pushing potential and his laning phase.
Who Fed Ru1 votesI don't understand how that changed with this patch? You couldn't control it before either?
I honestly don't know what you are trying to say.
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I don't understand how that changed with this patch? You couldn't control it before either?
I honestly don't know what you are trying to say.
His laning phase was gutted so hard you can't even accidentally proc relic shield. That is how bad fiddles is now. HIs laning phase in the high 40's before. Now it is going to be the low 40's. Don't believe me?
Try laning with him. He is now trash everywhere except jungle.
People went support fiddles for the late pushing power. He doesn't have any anymore even as lane fiddles.
Who Fed Ru1 votesI mean, when you use your E to try to proc relic as support fiddle then you were doing something wrong in the first place.
That's not how you play a support with relic shield. That's how you fuck up the wave and tilt your ADC.
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I mean, when you use your E to try to proc relic as support fiddle then you were doing something wrong in the first place.
That's not how you play a support with relic shield. That's how you fuck up the wave and tilt your ADC.
No adc was tilted when I played and my winrate is higher than 50% with him. I would be quiet if you have no actual argument. I doubt you even played the guy as much as I did anyway.
Who Fed Ru1 votesWild guess... Bronze 4?
At least I don't want to be your ADC.
ShuyinTheX1 votesBecause at this stage in the game, unless Fiddle gets a gameplay update, taking him to a lane is a troll pick. He can no longer stand up in lane.
Meep Man1 votesLane Fiddlesticks is actually really good, but was a "feast or famine" pick. His QEW combo could chunk you for far more than half your health without much interaction.
LyingOnLine1 votesThey wanted to buff jungle fiddle without making middlesticks pick or ban.
Meep Man1 votesLane Fiddlesticks isn't fun to play against as it is like old Ryze to where "if you are in my range you die, if you aren't I die. If you can't interrupt my W, I win. If you can, I lose." That's lane Fiddlesticks.
Ahri Baka1 votesHonestly , I always hated playing against Fiddle in mid , he is just so strong there , he can come to lane and E and push the whole wave , kills 6 minions and the wave goes to the enemy tower to make it kill 2 minions , most of times while playing against him I barely kill 2 minions from the first wave , and his E Poke is actually stupid and very easy to hit
