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Rugovino··57 votes·16,540 views

Hello Dear Riot, and fellow community members.

I'm here to post a suggestion about the ongoing issues in Ranked Games where people are actually trying to have fun and you have other players just making it difficult to enjoy the game what-so-ever by abusing the system itself.

As we are all aware of we cannot report players anymore for being "Unskilled" so it's perfectly fine for someone to go 0/10 because it'll just be labeled as "bad game" if he is actually just playing but the player is clearly unskilled for various reasons, but I am targeting one problem right now, new champions.

Riot, don't get us wrong, we love the new content, we love new champions, and everything that has yet to come, however you need to put restrictions to content you actually release.

Don't allow champions you release to be available in ranked rather have them "Locked" for a timeperiod, say 1-2 weeks, and they can only be played in normal games / draft etc.

That way it will allow people to actually try those champions out in normal games and practice them instead of having these ignorant people jumping into ranked and just trying them out, ruining the game for everyone, your team and enemy team included.

TLDR: New champions in ranked games are a big issue, put a time restriction on the champions after they are release, not allowing them to be played in ranked. e.g 1-2 weeks before the champion is unlocked in ranked, however summoner can enjoy the new content in normal/draft to try and practice the champion out.

Sincerely, Rugo

63 Comments

rohirienthire17 votes

How 'bout we get like a mastery LOCK instead? then we will solve the issue with everyone try outing champs in rankeds xD We could have like mastery level 3+ for the champion to be available in ranked :)) also will help us fight the botting community selling accounts to smurfs :)

Live2LetDie5 votes

usually I would agree but this would limit people wanting to try a new role or that get auto fill. Also If I am sup and someone tells me a pick is better I might pick it

PinkStripper7 votes

But that's why you try the role in draft,,, and get the mastery points? then play it in ranked,,, [zombie-brand-clap]

SweedishGunner6 votes

You can't control auto fill though?

GFREEMEN1 votes

Autofill is BAD for the game and needs to be removed.

There fixed

Z3SIeeper1 votes

I refuse to play ADC if I can avoid it.

Gauringe7 votes

but then how will we swap? like trade champions etc.. they must find a way like we can check "Trading champion" and the trading process happens after u accept, like someone sends u a request that u will swap champs, and then u accept the request, and u will pick for him, and it will automatically trade ^^

Rewt17 votes

This is a terrible idea for a few reasons.

  1. if you need to trade champs then you wouldn't be able to pick the champ to trade him.

  2. Lets say I get autofilled ADC. I have 2 ADCs at Mastery 3 or higher. Jhin and Twitch. That's it. So if Jhin and twitch are banned or picked then I have to play some troll shit like TF adc or something because I just don't have ADC champs at M4

Pombagira5 votes

OverWatch does this, and it works for them. I highly support this idea.

Six Inch Heals1 votes

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OverWatch does this, and it works for them. I highly support this idea.

Since when?

Make Me Wet3 votes

Since always. Every time they release a new hero in the middle of a season you cannot play that hero in competitive until the rank season ends.

Smyrage3 votes

The restriction lasts for 2 weeks if I recall correctly. So after a champion is released, it can only be played 2 weeks after the release.

Jack Eron4 votes

My rankeds were nightmares when sylas was released. Literally half hour after he was in game i get him in ALL of my games, and all of them was feeding as hell. New champions should be locker not for 2 weeks, for a month minimum before some idiot can take it to rankeds.

Patriogenus3 votes

genius idea im tired of fuking noobs ruining my games

PinkStripper3 votes

Yes,, pls god yes! Riot!!! :3 Pls make this happen [zombie-nunu-hearts]

DamSonWhUFndThis3 votes

Had a guy playing Sett in my provisional games, he wasn't bad but like the champ was only few days old, almost every single matchup would be new to him (we obviously lost but not much of his fault maybe lil)

Six Inch Heals3 votes

Smite does this, and it works wonders. I'm really shocked League hasn't emulated.

Smyrage3 votes

I personally feel that Ranked rules aren't strict enough in general to deter players from purposefully unskillful play. I mean everyone can have bad games, but if you pick something really off-meta like e.g Azir jungle and all your team can see is Azir dying to jgl creeps all the time, then bad games can't be an excuse. Same is true for picking a new champion in ranked in day 0. I read somewhere that Riot doesn't want such rule, because people can try the new champion on the test server prior the release. However, not every player can play on the test server, furthermore in the first 2 weeks after the release, it is close to impossible to practice that champion, because everybody is playing him/her/it.

Kabot3 votes

The worst part is if you just ban the new champ. People who try to lock him in say, "Ok fine, get ready for troll". . . I wish I took a screen shot of this with Sett "players" this last week. People throw bc U ban their sett at 1st day of realease IN RANKED.

GFREEMEN3 votes

Why only new champs?

Its no different then someone going

"First time Zed"

A better option is to make it so you need to have at least Mastery 1 with a champ before you can play them in Ranked.

8 Lamar Jackson2 votes

Good idea.

Janakin2 votes

I think most people would just wait 2 weeks to practice them in the rankeds anyway.

zaire902 votes

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I think most people would just wait 2 weeks to practice them in the rankeds anyway.

Im alright with that because at least in that time period proper builds, masteries and guides and shit have come out and if they do play norms theyve seen the champ played for a bit to slightly better see how the champ is played.

Xhaiden2 votes

I get what you're saying and i agree with your concern - but your solution to that is quite faulty - to say the least. I mean, even if a new champion is locked for 2 weeks - you'd still find plenty "who still play that champ for the 1st time". This actually happens even with older champions - so it's an old and general issue (champions with little to no experience being picked in rank - basically "trying or learning that champion in rank"). This concern was addressed multiple times and here's a solution posted in past topics as well - that could actually improve the experience of those playing rank, as in:

If you don't have at least lvl 4 Mastery on a champion - that should be locked till you achieve that Mastery. You can Ban that champion - same as you can ban the champions you don't have - you just can't use it yourself.

Level 4 mastery (or even lvl 7 mastery) - might not reflect a high skill - but at least it shows that you played that champion enough to get used to its play-style and its abilities.

Even more than that... every new season - you should have at least 5 games on normal with that champion (in case they reworked him or you haven't played him for quite some time - many months or years even - since mastery lvl doesn't decay). Or... they could implement "Mastery Decay" - so your mastery will drop on that champion if you don't play him. Starting from Mastery 4 -if that's the minimum mastery for rank (stops decaying at lvl 3).

DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes

I can smash anyone in ranked 10+kill score dominant win and I don't have to be level 7 in fact I wasn't even level 2 on chat champ

Xhaiden2 votes

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I can smash anyone in ranked 10+kill score dominant win and I don't have to be level 7 in fact I wasn't even level 2 on chat champ

Sure you can. The stats of your account speak for themselves.

It's always the ones who ruin rank games - that try to "defend (cough cough)" - their option to ruin them even further.

DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes

what are you even talking about? clearly a story teller

Xhaiden5 votes

{quoted}

what are you even talking about? clearly a story teller

I deal with facts. Self-praising or story teller (I can smash anyone in ranked 10+kill score dominant win) vs reality...

https://i.imgur.com/LyWZQb7.png[]

nYtro 252 votes

{quoted}

I can smash anyone in ranked 10+kill score dominant win and I don't have to be level 7 in fact I wasn't even level 2 on chat champ

Eu ego.[zombie-brand-facepalm]

DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes

NA [draven-pose] OMEGALUL

nYtro 251 votes

{quoted}

NA [draven-pose] OMEGALUL

Yellow Teeth EUNE OMEGALUL*[sg-miss-fortune]*

DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes

Imagine laughing at someone because of their look it is literally one of the most offensive comments a human would do, like laughing at a mentaly disabled person or someone with a physical disability. It's pretty much same.

Also what if I don't have yellow teeth? What if I had sparkling wite teeth? Where does yellow teeth eu come from anyway? I thought this cliche was adressed in England even in the Simpsons you had one episode with the same vibe.....

nYtro 251 votes

Imagine laughing at where someone lives without knowing the story of why they're family moved from where ever they had no chance to a place with more of a chance just for their children. Imagine making fun of someone because they feel secure in a country in comparison to a country like seria or iran where people are in pain and fear every day. Want me to keep going?[galio-happy]

DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes

thats completely off point though NA doesn't change and don't start pro league NA pros are no gods either no offense

nYtro 251 votes

Actually all you did was make fun of my region without context. Never said anything about "NA pros" in the first reply. All you talked about was my region. Get your shit straight the first time. And also no offense but EUNE has little to no pro presence and is constantly over shadowed by EUW as being the better region, and for good reasons. EUNE is just not nearly as good as EUW. Sad but honestly reality*[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]*

DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes

actualy not EUW is so good NA players go play there lol

nYtro 251 votes

Thats not even a response to what I said but that's cool too if you want to just accept that EUNE is worse than EUW

IainG101 votes

Hey, you leave EUW out of this!

DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes

are you trying to say something in a meaning?

NelsieLisnen2 votes

Hmm, I was ready for a rant post, but I think I stumbled upon the first reasonable one for this week. Well played sir

Lorenz Hellman2 votes

too bad u havent the luck to get me on ur team when i play the new guy.

Charmy Bird2 votes

I rl don't see why this hasn't been implemented yet. Everytime there's a new champ I'm forced to take a big break from ranked cuz dumb people will first time a new champ and if I ban it then those same idiots will be shocked and troll.

LordForrest2 votes

You do realize that the Unskilled report didn't do anything, right? I was just placebo that was their for people to feel better about themselves and were ignored by the report system. Its why Riot removed it, because it didn't do anything and gave the wrong impression.

Lanakila Au2 votes

People who play the new champ in ranked either have no experience, or they have an unfair advantage because they have a PBE account. Either way it shouldn't be allowed

I say Facts2 votes

That is true. Although, I had another idea in my mind but It would not work well anyway. They could allow only the PBE users who have mastery 3 on the new champion to play on live ranked server. Getting mastery 3 is pretty easy and they have 2 weeks to learn the champion too. Nontheless, this is just a basic idea that I thought may work out, but it is not really as good as I think it might be. It might turn out to be unfair? because the members who havn't played him at all on PBE will need to be forced to play against this "new champion" and they might not like it.

My idea might be 50%, just saying. New ideas are always helpful.

Slica2 votes

Did you know that in some regions there isn't a normal draft? just Blind pick and ranked

Flawless Fetus2 votes

I've no idea how to implement it, but it needs to be for every champion based on mastery/games played. I'd rather have a first time set than a first time azir. The issue is "first timing" champs, not solely new champs.

consensuaI clown2 votes

{quoted}

Hello Dear Riot, and fellow community members.

I'm here to post a suggestion about the ongoing issues in Ranked Games where people are actually trying to have fun and you have other players just making it difficult to enjoy the game what-so-ever by abusing the system itself.

As we are all aware of we cannot report players anymore for being "Unskilled" so it's perfectly fine for someone to go 0/10 because it'll just be labeled as "bad game" if he is actually just playing but the player is clearly unskilled for various reasons, but I am targeting one problem right now, new champions.

Riot, don't get us wrong, we love the new content, we love new champions, and everything that has yet to come, however you need to put restrictions to content you actually release.

Don't allow champions you release to be available in ranked rather have them "Locked" for a timeperiod, say 1-2 weeks, and they can only be played in normal games / draft etc.

That way it will allow people to actually try those champions out in normal games and practice them instead of having these ignorant people jumping into ranked and just trying them out, ruining the game for everyone, your team and enemy team included.

TLDR: New champions in ranked games are a big issue, put a time restriction on the champions after they are release, not allowing them to be played in ranked. e.g 1-2 weeks before the champion is unlocked in ranked, however summoner can enjoy the new content in normal/draft to try and practice the champion out.

Sincerely, Rugo

They already did that thing to set due to his bugs. But still letting us suffer in soloqueue if someone whose ego is to big to tries Sett in normals decides to do it first time in ranked.

consensuaI clown2 votes

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They already did that thing to Sett due to his bugs. But still letting us suffer in soloqueue if someone whose ego is to big to tries Sett in normals decides to do it first time in ranked.

Comrade Warwick2 votes

Dota has this to an extent. If a hero is problematic or just newly released, people can't play them in certain modes, straight up. I don't know why Riot wouldn't let one live patch go by and see how the champion does before releasing it to the wild.

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