Does anyone else think Ornn needs a buff?
he's currently sitting at a 47 percent winrate, which is pretty bad...
12 Comments
Xavanic7 voteshe could use his shield back, since he's the only tank in the game without a defensive ability....
Polaris I2 votesHis shield made him very strong where it was impossible to out trade him with it being in such a low cool down. Maybe make his defensive stats stronger
Xavanic1 votes[{quoted}](name=Polaris I,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2g2ihprm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T05:50:27.317+0000)
His shield made him very strong where it was impossible to out trade him with it being in such a low cool down. Maybe make his defensive stats stronger
no, he needs a defensive ability, LITERALLY EVERY OTHER TANK has one, even if it's a just a defensive passive, he needs something
ı Sona ı1 votesno, he needs a defensive ability, LITERALLY EVERY OTHER TANK has one, even if it's a just a defensive passive, he needs something
He does have defensive skills. His dash is unstoppable except for terrain so he can bust through CC applied to him. His slow is very appreciable. His passive gives him free stat boosts to items.
Polaris I1 votesThey would have to increase his w cool down so he couldn’t spam shield and out trade you and decrease it’s damage.
Amumu has no defensive thing Cho Gath only gets stuff back for killing stuff, useless in a fight Mega gnar (and mini gnar) have nothing Leona only has bonus resist but Ornn has that permanent Sejuani only has her passive which ornn has Singed only has resist and armor on ult, which ornn has on passive
Xavanic1 votes[{quoted}](name=Polaris I,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2g2ihprm,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-14T06:19:52.212+0000)
They would have to increase his w cool down so he couldn’t spam shield and out trade you and decrease it’s damage.
Amumu has no defensive thing Cho Gath only gets stuff back for killing stuff, useless in a fight Mega gnar (and mini gnar) have nothing Leona only has bonus resist but Ornn has that permanent Sejuani only has her passive which ornn has Singed only has resist and armor on ult, which ornn has on passive
cho gets bonus health from eating stuff, an average game cho will have 1200+ health, thats not nothing gnar isn't a tank.... still is a defensive abilty still defensive, plus ornn doesnt have that? singed....doesn't really classify as a tank....he's a unqiue playstyle additionally ornn has the hardest top procing aftershock compared to other tanks due to both methods being delayed...hell throw the shield on E for all i care, just give him a shield
Ragnaveil1 votes[{quoted}](name=Polaris I,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2g2ihprm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T05:50:27.317+0000)
His shield made him very strong where it was impossible to out trade him with it being in such a low cool down. Maybe make his defensive stats stronger
Then nerf the strength. Very simple.
ı Sona ı1 voteshe could use his shield back, since he's the only tank in the game without a defensive ability....
See, heres the thing. Its impossible to have all characters have an above 50% winning percentage. Someone has to lose and someone has to win. That doesn't mean the character is bad. Players play characters. It could just be that the higher level players with the most skill simply aren't choosing Ornn because they are more interested in using other characters. I for one can do well with Annie because its Annie, stack stun press flash press R, but I prefer to use other champions.
Ornn is a strong variable pick with multiple build paths that brings overarching late game strength, he just needs the right team comp to shine.
Ornn Shyvana Katarina Miss Fortune Yuumi Ornn Xin Zhao Annie Ashe Karma Darius Rammus Ahri Jinx Ornn Sion Yi Ornn Sona Taric
Just needs a strong group.
[sona-playing]
Xavanic1 votes[{quoted}](name=ı Sona ı,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2g2ihprm,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-14T06:10:30.260+0000)
See, heres the thing. Its impossible to have all characters have an above 50% winning percentage. Someone has to lose and someone has to win. That doesn't mean the character is bad. Players play characters. It could just be that the higher level players with the most skill simply aren't choosing Ornn because they are more interested in using other characters. I for one can do well with Annie because its Annie, stack stun press flash press R, but I prefer to use other champions.
Ornn is a strong variable pick with multiple build paths that brings overarching late game strength, he just needs the right team comp to shine.
Ornn Shyvana Katarina Miss Fortune Yuumi Ornn Xin Zhao Annie Ashe Karma Darius Rammus Ahri Jinx Ornn Sion Yi Ornn Sona Taric
Just needs a strong group.
[sona-playing]
ornn is still the only tank without any defensive ability, even if they just give him 5% damage reduction or something....
WarrioRtricK1 votesBut that's not true, his passive gives him +10% armor and mr, and he gets free armor, mr and hp with the upgraded items. With only two items he has more than 200 armor and mr. One thing they could do to improve him is giving him the ability to rotate while using W, maybe slower than normal. Or a +10% hp on his passive.
Myren Quiddle1 votesThey moved Urgot's shield to his dash, maybe add a decaying shield to Ornn's E, when he E's he goes in so a shield would greatly help, but as it's decaying it isn't as OP as you won't have the shield anymore when you use your E to dash away to run for example.
LifeExistence1 votesOrnn is doo doo right now the buffs this patch made him a bit more applicable towards melee champions just not ranged champions that can kite him really badly i usually get ahead due to poor mistakes players make and it makes it impossible for me to carry or 1v2 a really behind bot lane as ornn :( his w was his only sustain in those fights or turning the fights sad days
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