It's a simple request but the old kog'maw's bio-arcane barrage costed no mana and this was not reverted in the revert. Considering that certain items that used to be core on him have been nerfed since then (cough cough bork) and how weak his laning phase already is could you please give him that small amount of power back? It seems fair to me.
Agreed.
I also really want the old kog'maw ultimate back. This one is just useless for the most part except when AD kog wants an execute. Previously it used to be good onboth ad and ap kog.
We talked a lot about whether or not we should go back to a zero mana cost W on Kog. We decided not to in 6.19 at least both to get a better understanding of where Kog's power level would end up post partial revert and because of some concerns about the impact of a no cost W. It was a change we were never entirely happy with, given it both changes the meaning of what mana/being OOM mean on a kit and added quite a bit of laning power to a champion intended to have a lot of late game strength. It's certainly possible we add go back to it if Kog needs buffs after these changes, might be other buffs though that are better options.
In terms of possible changes in 6.20 we're waiting to see how Kog performs over the next few days at least before we talk about whether we should try and do anything power wise in the next patch or not. We will definitely be changing his W animation back to the pre-update one, that's basically just a feel change though, so doesn't need to take his balance state into account.
didnt they also nerf his base hp during the marksmen update?
AP Kog QQ :(
I figure we wait and see. Rather release him weaker than stronger.
Since he has to work with it rather than letting it do the carrying for him now, it should probably be leavened out that way.
