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What's up with ADCs and Bot lane?

Catsix·6/15/2018, 9:40:27 PM·6 votes·4,426 views

This is more of an expressive post sharing my thoughts on the state of the Bot Lane and ADCs. Although I don't have many games on ADC I know something is awry when Vlad, Yasuo, and Mord have higher win rates in bot lane than ADCs like Xayah, Trist, and Ashe. I'm no Meta Slave and have nothing against kill lanes etc bot, but when a solid chunk of ADCs have win rates below 48% (on op.gg) it gives the impression that something unhealthy is going on.

I don't know how inclined riot is to address the effects of their two most recent patches but I firmly believe the solution is not to buff or revert what they've done. I think some champs could use a tweak or two (I'm looking at you, Master Yi) but the real issue is game length vs achievable power. ADCs are falling away in favor of early game champions because games are too short for their damage to shine. Increasing game duration or even just laning phase duration (ie make 1st turret worth less, make outer turrets have higher defenses early in the game etc) will allow ADCs to build up the gold they need to make those powerspikes and be relevant again.

Alternatively, a gold income item could be implemented for marksmen (similar to jg items) where early game income could be boosted until say- the first item is completed. There are a number of possibilities to bring ADCs back and I really hope Riot sees the fall off they're experiencing and does something. ADC has been my favorite role and my favorite champs are affected severely by these changes. Please, Riot, dont let Wacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Meta be the new game...

21 Comments

Mordepool6/15/2018, 11:10:24 PM6 votes

Morde. A Champion designed for Botlane is actually seeing play in Botlane. Since the Oppressive Statcheck from ranged champions took a nerf.

His. Playrate has jumped 5 percent. He's actually a Champion now. HOLY SHIT

Colton1476/15/2018, 9:42:44 PM5 votes

As I don't feel like rewriting this...

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Tristana Caitlyn Jinx Kalista Sivir Ashe Vayne KogMaw Twitch Kaisa Xayah Varus Jhin are all in the dumpster and are badly in need of buffs to be made a viable pick.

The only viable ADCs right now are Ezreal Draven MissFortune Lucian.

Saibbo6/15/2018, 11:35:36 PM4 votes

The main problem is that half of the ADC relay on a strong late game but weak early, most of the game don't reach that point. Before they were good because of the good sustain that got the to the late game + the crit being more rewarding and available on average around mid-game. Riot toke all of that from them, the sustain from runes and regen, the gold value of the items and the effective damage increase of the critical strikes and not to forget the 4 AD that they took away. So now since there are so many good champions that destroy these ADC early and punish them really hard not letting them getting to late game makes them worthless basically.

Paroe6/15/2018, 11:52:51 PM2 votes

@thread

  1. Marksmen itemization was finally nerfed into similarity with all other classes (2900g is standard for full items in almost every other class).
  2. Marksmen mains are notorious for not adapting to change very well or fast unless its positive change.
  3. Many marksmen are experimenting with the assassin crit item, storm razor, and are thus failing pretty heavily because its a bad item on champions who basic a lot.

The only buff marksmen needs is for a +20% crit chance rune in the tree. Perhaps replace legend:tenacity (marksmen dont need THAT rito) with crit?

Meep Man6/16/2018, 12:09:48 AM2 votes

It's a meta shift, not something unhealthy. ADCs just need small buffs like what is on the PBE right now.