Who outscales nasus in split pushing

paperbIade·Jun 18, 2015·1 votes·1,123 views

besides trundle

26 Comments

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 18, 20151 votes

trundle doesn't "outscale" nasus, a nasus with enoguh stacks split pushes better than trundle. No one can split push better than somebody that can infinitely stack a tower nuke

paperbIadeJun 18, 20151 votes

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trundle doesn't "outscale" nasus, a nasus with enoguh stacks split pushes better than trundle. No one can split push better than somebody that can infinitely stack a tower nuke

ok who can 1v1 him

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 18, 20151 votes

how many stacks does nasus have?

paperbIadeJun 18, 20151 votes

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how many stacks does nasus have?

800

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 18, 20154 votes

no one.

Spicy RiceJun 18, 20151 votes

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800

Full build yi can potentially beat him. Full build vlad possibly can Veigar with 1.2k ap and some magic pen can Akali can and so can a full build kat Malz can with a good void pool + ult

SasogwaJun 18, 20151 votes

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Full build yi can potentially beat him. Full build vlad possibly can Veigar with 1.2k ap and some magic pen can Akali can and so can a full build kat Malz can with a good void pool + ult

No one of those guys can, if Nasus builds the least smart. Funniest examples are Akali and Kat getting completely destroyed by Nasus, Veigar can't really if Nasus has at least merc treads and SV + some HP to back it up (and he can always take a banshees on top of that if he has any trouble). Vlad can't. Yi is scary, but thornmails fucks him up. Malz can deal scary damage but can't completely oneshoot Nasus if he's alone. And then Nasus after his combo, even if he has only 25% or so HP remaining, will destroy malz.

A highly mechanical Vayne could possibly beat Nasus, but I'm not so sure about that. Nasus can grab distortion boots and just ghost to her + get a vision totem or oracle's lens to not be outplayed by invisibility.

BluePolarizerJun 18, 20151 votes

thornmail does nothing to Yi if he builds BT and Maw

SasogwaJun 18, 20151 votes

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thornmail does nothing to Yi if he builds BT and Maw

then either he has not enough damage either he has not enough armor. It still heavily damages him, and makes Nasus a huge physical+magical damage threat.

paperbIadeJun 19, 20151 votes

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then either he has not enough damage either he has not enough armor. It still heavily damages him, and makes Nasus a huge physical+magical damage threat.

How about jax?

NemeBroJun 18, 20151 votes

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Full build yi can potentially beat him. Full build vlad possibly can Veigar with 1.2k ap and some magic pen can Akali can and so can a full build kat Malz can with a good void pool + ult

Akali and Kat can't duel Nasus without being significantly ahead, lol.

Trundle can duel Nasus if both are at full build and Nasus has like nine hundred stacks. I've done it.

Yi can possibly do it.

AaravosJun 18, 20151 votes

Malza destroyed by item 3140 . Veigar also. Akali, Kat don't have any chance. Vlad also can't deal with his sustain. Yi maybe can.

Drunk RummateJun 18, 20151 votes

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ok who can 1v1 him

Azir. Not even kidding. Pick Azir top into Nasus, ult him out of fights, destroy him in lane phase. Nasus can't even touch you, he has nothing in his kit to get to you and even if he flashes on you, you can just ult him away and conserve your flash.

You outscale him and offer more to your team than he does at all stages of the game.

SorgklaanJun 18, 20151 votes

Full build trundle with ult, potentially. Maybe rammus?

It would be different if you could kite him, but it has to be somebody who can solo him 1v1 in an outright melee.

Full build ryze might be tanky enough with enough spellvamp, maybe a full build jax if you're lucky, maybe fiora. Mundo might be able to cleave through some of his health, but will probably get kited and gibbed.

AaravosJun 18, 20151 votes

Hyper scaling ranged carries with item 3140 . He don't have chance against Vayne at all, while KogMaw and Jinx can take him down also. From meeles Maybe MasterYi can deal with him but i think Nasus is just too tanky and sustained against meele champions. Ranged hypercarries are his nightmare.

DurzakaJun 18, 20151 votes

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Hyper scaling ranged carries with . He don't have chance against at all, while and can take him down also. From meeles Maybe can deal with him also but i think is just too tanky and sustained against meele champions. Ranged hypercarries are his nightmare.

Pretty much what this guy said.

Pretty much no one can outscale Nasus when it comes to splitpush. Only reason Yi can even compete is because his ult makes him immune to Wither, so he at least has a chance.

3TWarriorJun 18, 20151 votes

Nasus E's to break it if he knows you have it, then it's gone for 20 seconds

a carry will likely take 5 seconds to defeat him unless they build armor pen % along with their crit build

if he isn't crowd controlled, he can hit a tower twice in this period for a lot of damage

AaravosJun 18, 20151 votes

i talked about dueling and not tower pushing. Nasus for sure is the strongest champion to take down towers.

3TWarriorJun 18, 20151 votes

if the champ never gets in range, they can kill him for sure, such as vayna, but other counters can have a hard time, like Quinn should be the ideal matchup with blinds and vault, but vault actually puts you in range of his auto

Mob Psycho 100Jun 18, 20151 votes

Yi. Immune to Wither. A smart Yi could possibly dodge Nasus' Q's with his own Q.

At the moment, a full build Ryze can. Nasus wouldnt ever be able to touch him with a Permaroot.

Maybe a Full Ap mini gnar? 100% ap scaling on his W DESTROYS tanks, and he can just kite Nasus forever.

ÐeliciousJun 18, 20151 votes

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Yi. Immune to Wither. A smart Yi could possibly dodge Nasus' Q's with his own Q.

At the moment, a full build Ryze can. Nasus wouldnt ever be able to touch him with a Permaroot.

Maybe a Full Ap mini gnar? 100% ap scaling on his W DESTROYS tanks, and he can just kite Nasus forever.

You can only dodge nasus's Q with alphastrike if nasus misclicks

SasogwaJun 18, 20151 votes

About Nasus vs Trundle. Outside of ultimates, Nasus beats Trundle hands down. Just fight Trundle until he's forced to use his ult, wither out of the fight, come back when his ult is down and beat him. Nasus doesn't even need to ult. Key is respecting Trundle's ultimate strength, which is probably the best duelling ultimate in the game.

paperbIadeJun 18, 20151 votes

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About Nasus vs Trundle. Outside of ultimates, Nasus beats Trundle hands down. Just fight Trundle until he's forced to use his ult, wither out of the fight, come back when his ult is down and beat him. Nasus doesn't even need to ult. Key is respecting Trundle's ultimate strength, which is probably the best duelling ultimate in the game.

How do you know?

SasogwaJun 18, 20151 votes

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How do you know?

I main Nasus, played enough Nasus (about 2k games at least) to know my strengths and weaknesses and every matchup. Played vs Trundle a bunch of times already.

Mob Psycho 100Jun 18, 20151 votes

Still think Full AP Mini Gnar beats him 1v1.

Magic Pen Marks Attack Speed Runes Scaling ability power Glyphs Scaling Cooldown Reduction Quints

20% CDR 1047 AP (my math may be bad so it may be more.

W proc damage: 50+100% AP + 14% max health =

1090 + 14% Nasus' Max Health every 3 hits.