Kindred needs her heal back.

jclobber··8 votes·858 views

It's very clear at this point that the removal of their heal completely destroyed the champion, her winrate is atrocious , and she just feels awful now, getting dominated by every single jungler currently in the meta, and many out of it. Hell, even the pros have completely ditched her.

To explain why she needs the passive heal so much, take a look at her base armor and health 20 and 540 respectively. That is insanely low for jungler, and makes her incredibly open to counter jungling, seriously, I encourage you to play her in a gold-level game, you will be relentlessly destroyed in your own jungle on a champion that requires you to roam into the enemy jungle to pick up her stacks, the very thing that makes her a hypercarry. She may be considered a late game hyper carry, but it is so stupidly hard to pick up the stacks that make her worth playing, you'll be lucky to even partially stay relevant throughout the game.

So in conclusion, please Riot, throw her passive heal back on in the PBE, and either keep her the way she was, or find a less devastating nerf for her.

Thank you for reading, Jclobber.

19 Comments

Marshbouy3 votes

her winrate is only 48%. She needs some tiny buffs be she does not need her heal back.

Astôlfo2 votes

Uh, a small heal (like before, but maybe lessened on amount or speed of stacking) would be a tiny buff.

Marshbouy2 votes

nothing big tho. the issue beforehand was that her heal would keep her at full health and she could invade ez

Astôlfo2 votes

Yeah, that was ridiculous before.

Pnakotic1 votes

and now you finish your jungle full healt ... wow so much change ...

PhantomGG3 votes

The heal had nothing to do with it, the new passive is actually better. it's the armor nerf that hurts her. 8 armor is a whole rune section.

Slack King2 votes

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It's very clear at this point that the removal of their heal completely destroyed the champion, her winrate is atrocious , and she just feels awful now, getting dominated by every single jungler currently in the meta, and many out of it. Hell, even the pros have completely ditched her.

To explain why she needs the passive heal so much, take a look at her base armor and health 20 and 540 respectively. That is insanely low for jungler, and makes her incredibly open to counter jungling, seriously, I encourage you to play her in a gold-level game, you will be relentlessly destroyed in your own jungle on a champion that requires you to roam into the enemy jungle to pick up her stacks, the very thing that makes her a hypercarry. She may be considered a late game hyper carry, but it is so stupidly hard to pick up the stacks that make her worth playing, you'll be lucky to even partially stay relevant throughout the game.

So in conclusion, please Riot, throw her passive heal back on in the PBE, and either keep her the way she was, or find a less devastating nerf for her.

Thank you for reading, Jclobber.

Mordekaiser has lower base hp and the same armor, and jungles just fine

Astôlfo1 votes

Uh yeah except he has healing, AoE damage, and really fast clears?

IAMS4T4N2 votes

pls no league of kindred again

The Yetii Rider2 votes

Are you new here or something? Do you remember Sejuani? Warwick? Master Yi? Shyvana? Xin Zhao? A jungler gets strong, they get nerfed, then Riot leaves them in the trash can for a year or two. Kindred is not special. She should stay useless just like every other jungler who gets nerfed.

Arakadia1 votes

She should not stay dumpstered. No champion should.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

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She should not stay dumpstered. No champion should.

And yet, they do. Constantly. OP should be arguing for a Sej, Yi, Gragas or Kha'Zix buff before Kindred if no champion should stay dumpstered. Kindred's been out of the meta for what, two patches now?

AstroFerrari 1 votes

She's not too bad without it, the attack speed slow against epic monsters is a lot more useful that I initially thought it would be. As much as I'd like her to have the heal back, I guess she just needs a different approach taken

specter4241 votes

That champion almost made me want to quit league. Not quite Azir tier in poor design but damn close

Arakadia1 votes

She has low defenses because she can kite so well.

Pnakotic1 votes

they can't now, you need level 9 for that ...

Arakadia1 votes

Why?

Pnakotic1 votes

One probleme is the low base dmg, that make lifesteal not effectiv on Kindred ...

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