I quit

Urinesane·Mar 1, 2020·1 votes·10,858 views

I am going to quit this game. Riot does not know how to buff or nerf champs. simple as that. Waste of my money of 6 years.

These are the champs and items that need a NERF. also please reduce the percentage of setts tue damage. 50% at all ranks.. to 30% to 50%.. increased late or he cannot flash during his W channel

Stacks should only be by 2, ESPECIALLY WITH NASUS when he already scales with ap and ad from his q. please take off the AD and AP if he is going to be stacking with q does way too much damage already. all those champions included and items need MAJOR NERF.

121 Comments

ZodshipmedMar 1, 20205 votes

Garen and nasus are absolute and utter "I'd have to not have hands to not go 10/0 in lane" tier, period.

That's why they're so picked in low elo along with morde

Riot is now basically at the same level of stupidity as the chinese government which owns it, league is just so conformist and stupid and soyboy-ish, from the cartoony graphics to how all the underpowered champions are male

IMelchorIMar 1, 202013 votes

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Garen and nasus are absolute and utter "I'd have to not have hands to not go 10/0 in lane" tier, period.

That's why they're so picked in low elo along with morde

Riot is now basically at the same level of stupidity as the chinese government which owns it, league is just so conformist and stupid and soyboy-ish, from the cartoony graphics to how all the underpowered champions are male

said the iron 4 wukong main. is it so hard for you to accept that you are just bad at the game and playing one of the weakest top laners in this game additionally? even if riot nerfed nasus and garen you would be here in a week and complain about other champions that you are losing to.

garen is strong in low elo and balanced in high elo. you simply have to learn to play better against him and that may take time.

complaining about nasus should just be embarassing to anyone.

fact.

Jng AccountMar 1, 202017 votes

To be fair, Garen is overbuffed, for supposedly low elo stomper, he has 52% wr in dia+ with 7% pr and he autowins many matchups, its not Ornn lvl, but its still really strong until highest elos.

IMelchorIMar 1, 20205 votes

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To be fair, Garen is overbuffed, for supposedly low elo stomper, he has 52% wr in dia+.

https://u.gg/lol/champions/garen/build?rank=diamond_plus

51% in diamond.

at higher elos he is not played enough to give real statistics.

Jng AccountMar 1, 20208 votes

Its 52%, you have to look at more sites, not just one.

Riot said that u.gg is closest to their stats, but ppl forget to mention, how u.gg owners sponsored LCS the same year they said it.

I prefer to use at least 3 sites to have a rough guess about champs wr.

And even 51%, for champ with no mechanics, who should be easy to counter for ppl with brain, its too much, he should have sub50% in higher elos.

IljosMar 1, 20203 votes

what sites did you use then cause all the good ones have him around 51% lmao

ZodshipmedMar 1, 20203 votes

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said the iron 4 wukong main. is it so hard for you to accept that you are just bad at the game and playing one of the weakest top laners in this game additionally? even if riot nerfed nasus and garen you would be here in a week and complain about other champions that you are losing to.

garen is strong in low elo and balanced in high elo. you simply have to learn to play better against him and that may take time.

complaining about nasus should just be embarassing to anyone.

fact.

Ok, see my sin is you EUNE, notice how you've proven my point by instantly jumping to the "YOU CAN'T BE PLATINUM YOU MUST BE IRON 4" card

If I am failing because wukong is bad, that's you admitting bad balance yet STILL clinging to riot being perfect by trying to justify the bad balance

Let's make this simple: garen and nasus CAN'T BE ENGAGED if you're melee meaning you either give up CS or you go 0/10 in lane no matter how good you are to someone who knows how to press 3 buttons (yes, an iron 4 can do this)

"complaining about nasus should just be embarassing to anyone."

literally regens back to full in a wave
low mana costs
Q does insane damage even if behind
CANNOT be denied cs due to tankiness and regen so guaranteed to be able to oneshot you
literal stat check at level 6 that can't be engaged by a melee

Are you okay, NPC boy? You're literally no lifing defending a billion dollar chinese owned company

IMelchorIMar 1, 20205 votes

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Ok, see my sin is you EUNE, notice how you've proven my point by instantly jumping to the "YOU CAN'T BE PLATINUM YOU MUST BE IRON 4" card

If I am failing because wukong is bad, that's you admitting bad balance yet STILL clinging to riot being perfect by trying to justify the bad balance

Let's make this simple: garen and nasus CAN'T BE ENGAGED if you're melee meaning you either give up CS or you go 0/10 in lane no matter how good you are to someone who knows how to press 3 buttons (yes, an iron 4 can do this)

"complaining about nasus should just be embarassing to anyone."

literally regens back to full in a wave

low mana costs

Q does insane damage even if behind

CANNOT be denied cs due to tankiness and regen so guaranteed to be able to oneshot you

literal stat check at level 6 that can't be engaged by a melee

Are you okay, NPC boy? You're literally no lifing defending a billion dollar chinese owned company

there is no way someone makes it to platinum on his own without getting elo boosted and then is stuck in iron 4 a season later.

ZodshipmedMar 1, 20202 votes

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there is no way someone makes it to platinum on his own without getting elo boosted and then is stuck in iron 4 a season later.

meaning you didn't look at any dates of my matches or the fact that I got to iron 4 on purpose thinking it would be fun to stomp noobs (it isn't, don't do this, an iron 4 player presses 4 buttons just like a higher elo player so)

IMelchorIMar 1, 20208 votes

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meaning you didn't look at any dates of my matches or the fact that I got to iron 4 on purpose thinking it would be fun to stomp noobs (it isn't, don't do this, an iron 4 player presses 4 buttons just like a higher elo player so)

i reported you for feeding yourself into iron then.

either way you should have no say on champion balance when you act like this.

SylaelqueMar 1, 20204 votes

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i reported you for feeding yourself into iron then.

either way you should have no say on champion balance when you act like this.

This player might have Iron mmr with Plat rank and he got hardly punished after reset. I'm still getting matched with Bronze and Iron players in normal games with Silver 1 rank because I climbed to Gold 2 from Bronze 4 in last season but in this one my rank reset to Bronze 2 then won 7 games of calibration and started from Silver 4 but my mmr still horrible so I always have to solo carry my team which is so sad and not enjoyable.

IMelchorIMar 1, 20203 votes

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This player might have Iron mmr with Plat rank and he got hardly punished after reset. I'm still getting matched with Bronze and Iron players in normal games with Silver 1 rank because I climbed to Gold 2 from Bronze 4 in last season but in this one my rank reset to Bronze 2 then won 7 games of calibration and started from Silver 4 but my mmr still horrible so I always have to solo carry my team which is so sad and not enjoyable.

normals and rankeds have different mmr.

someone who plays at challenger can be matched with irons in normals when he does not play normals for two or three seasons.

IMelchorIMar 1, 20205 votes

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This player might have Iron mmr with Plat rank and he got hardly punished after reset. I'm still getting matched with Bronze and Iron players in normal games with Silver 1 rank because I climbed to Gold 2 from Bronze 4 in last season but in this one my rank reset to Bronze 2 then won 7 games of calibration and started from Silver 4 but my mmr still horrible so I always have to solo carry my team which is so sad and not enjoyable.

he also directly said he inted himself to iron "to have fun stomping noobs".

either he was ranked boosted and is lying or he is not lying and just a troll and should be perma banned for inting games.

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meaning you didn't look at any dates of my matches or the fact that I got to iron 4 on purpose thinking it would be fun to stomp noobs (it isn't, don't do this, an iron 4 player presses 4 buttons just like a higher elo player so)

ZodshipmedMar 1, 20201 votes

{quoted} either way you should have no say on champion balance when you act like this.

Throwing all logic out the window so you disagree with me, nice

IMelchorIMar 1, 20205 votes

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Throwing all logic out the window so you disagree with me, nice

how about this kind of logic

you admitted to getting boosted to platinum by a friend
you tried to hide your inability to keep that mmr by claiming you "feed your way to iron to kill noobs for fun". both possibilities should get you perma banned. you do not understand that you lost your rank simply because you are not a platinum level player.
you obviously have two or three accounts that are upvoting each other and are easy to identify because they all complain about nasus a 47% win rate and 2% pick rate off meta champion that most people do not even remember
you attack everyone personally who disagrees with your opinion in an incredibly offensive way
you spend most of your time making complaint post about champions instead of trying to look into guides and asking for advise how to better fight these champions
when other people try to give sound advise you just ignore them and look for the post by the few other low elo players that share your opinion to feel vindicated

the logical conclusion: you are a low elo troll.

nYtro 25Mar 1, 20205 votes

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meaning you didn't look at any dates of my matches or the fact that I got to iron 4 on purpose thinking it would be fun to stomp noobs (it isn't, don't do this, an iron 4 player presses 4 buttons just like a higher elo player so)

Not only did this man admit to being iron 4, he also admitted to inting RANKED GAMES. I'm really starting to think your just terrible at the game. Might wanna take that other guy up on his coaching offer.

Jng AccountMar 1, 20209 votes

Do you have -redacted- dmg? In what world you live in that you cant engage on Nasus? You can kill Nasus from lvl1 with Wu...

Do you want coaching? I have spare hour, maybe we can make you at least silver.

svnseMar 2, 20201 votes

Ill take it!! summoner 4

Jng AccountMar 1, 20202 votes

Boy you sure are butthurt after getting asswhooped by that smurf, oof.

Nasus is, at best, super niche pick vs certein champs(Vlad).

You need to gid gut man.

all the underpowered champions are male

Sometimes Im ashamed to be eune player...

IMelchorIMar 1, 20204 votes

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Boy you sure are butthurt after getting asswhooped by that smurf, oof.

Nasus is, at best, super niche pick vs certein champs(Vlad).

You need to gid gut man.

Sometimes Im ashamed to be eune player...

op plays normal games only and played one game today with his last game a month ago.

he thinks that makes him an expert at champion balance. XD

ZodshipmedMar 1, 20202 votes

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op plays normal games only and played one game today with his last game a month ago.

he thinks that makes him an expert at champion balance. XD

What? How deranged do you get when you see people admitting champ balance for top lane is at a 0/10?

Jng AccountMar 1, 20205 votes

But buddy, you have no word about balance if you are crying about losing in iron...

IMelchorIMar 1, 20203 votes

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What? How deranged do you get when you see people admitting champ balance for top lane is at a 0/10?

what people? people like you who either int themselves to bronze or waste their time here complain instead of looking at a youtube video or two to learn how to play against nasus.

alwaysEZ4ENCEMar 1, 20205 votes

nasus counterplay: don't let him stack

garen counterplay: don't let him spin on u

congratulations, now u've learnt how to get out of iron

Sleeping BatMar 1, 20205 votes

don't let him stack

He will still be under his own tower. Plus gank happen and the match versus nasus is very boring.

don't let him spin on u

And give up CS and Objective for no reason. Nice. Plus garen can flash+Q and this is enough in some matches to burst someone from 100 to 0 or force them return to the fountain. Add plates to the tower and you have a losing lane without a single counterplay. And again, it's a very boring match where you just don't do anything because you can't do anything.

congratulations, now u've learnt how to get out of iron

Wrong, only by abusing OP champions like Mordekaiser Illaoi Sett you can climb. And it's just a coincidence that they can afford to be hit by Garen Q and win a match anyway.

Jng AccountMar 1, 20202 votes

lol, I can climb to high plat with anything, in fact, I will try to climb to high plat by playing my worst role(jngle) on this acc.

If you cant climb, its bcs of your unwillingness to improve or bcs you hitted your skill ceiling(which I proly will in jngle in gold o something)...

(little tip to lane vs Nasus - you dont always have push waves😘)

Sleeping BatMar 1, 20202 votes

(little tip to lane vs Nasus - you dont always have push waves😘)

How to take you seriously afterwards? The wave will still push at him, and quickly or slowly Nasus does not care, patience is the first thing players learn when playing as Nasus. So he will be stacking anyway, he not have need for rush because he is not an early game champion. So again you have demonstrated that you do not know anything about the game.

Jng AccountMar 1, 20202 votes

Nah, I have better understanding of game than 95% of player base. And what I said is true.

You dont let Nasus to hit minions = no life steal = he is forced to use E = he pushes wave

So many ppl will mindlessly shove and they are then surprised that Nasus allined them and they died when they are even in farm...

OP of main comment is Wu player, Nasus cant come close to minions from lvl1.

If you dont have at least 1 kill/SSs down in 5-6 mins its your bad.

Now there are matchups that Nasus wins and outscales(Vlad), kinda adcs top if he can survive(Quinn/Luc), some skill matchups(Jax, Fiora, Riven, Panth) and many losing ones(Rumble, Darius, Malph, Ornn, Rengo, Vayne, Kled, Singed(not sure how his nerfs effected this, but it shouldnt change much), Sett, Camille, Ryze, GP).

Sleeping BatMar 1, 20202 votes

hints that Nasus needs a ton of gold, not one hints that Nasus so dumb that won't wait until the wave push to him hints that Nasus will not take Grasp the Undying to receive heal in short trade

Enough to imply that you are a noob, i see it already.

Jng AccountMar 1, 20205 votes

It sounds like you have no idea what wave managment is, but w/e, keep on livin in the world where Nasus is op...

Im not claiming that Im best player, Im hardstuck on EUNE, but it looks like you cant use common sense.

You can call me noob, but if we want to insult each other, lets measure our dicks firsts.

https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=chase%20the%20gas https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=Sleeping%20Bat

Sleeping BatMar 1, 20202 votes

Obviously, you don't know how to play this game and have never played against Nas. He just wanted to sneeze at a frozen wave, for him CS loss meant nothing, so he would just wait until the wave reached his tower. And he can always stack on jg camps. So a good Nasu will always play passively and never rush, he is a late game champion. The only one counters play for this was to close game fast, but thanks to the income buffs you can not leave the top before level 11, because if you do, Nasu will gain a level 2 advantage for free. So all you can do is freeze the sound, but the freeze is not be forever, so sooner or later the wave will reach the Nasu tower. And everyone who plays this game knows it, but not you. Enough, but tired of such an idiot as you who thinks that only he is good and all the bad ones, obviously that noob is you and your attempts to lick Rito's ass are just boring. You are dumb. All you have is boosted account.

HopeStartsWithUMar 2, 20201 votes

He might have no idea of the game but you are hardstuck in bronze and finished silver last season. Bro, come on don't make a fool of yourself. Spare the last drop of dignity that you still have.

Sleeping BatMar 2, 20201 votes

If you opened my match history, you would see that in many matches I am often the best player. But since I can't play the same champion all the time, yes, I'm stuck. It's very difficult to carry your promo as Swain Top when your bot go 1/8 in ten minutes. So if you say that I don't have the "skill" to spam 1 OP champion then yes, I agree with that. But if you say that I have no ability to play this game then I will say that you are a typical 1 trick pony with a small brain. So small that he never realized that my nagging about Nasus was not about how OP he is, but about how boring to play against him and that when you need to make a play IMMEDIATELY a passive Nasus is one of the worst opponents.

nYtro 25Mar 1, 20201 votes

Can you not hold a freeze? Freezing in front of your turret basically forces the nasus to either be same lvl as everyone else, but behind in items and stacks, or be dead every minute to a Gank.

Sleeping BatMar 1, 20201 votes

but behind in items and stacks

Yes, and? This is normal for Nasus, but if he is not feeding and his bot is not feeding then this is game over. If you don't understand then I explain that bullying out of lane a passive Nasu is very difficult, the match is very boring and if there are no ganks then all you both do is just farming. And then Nasu sees that he has enough stacks to kill you and only a handful of champions can cope with Nasu who has had enough brains to stacks on cannons and monsters.

Jng AccountMar 1, 20201 votes

Give me a champ, I'll give you plan on how to beat Nasus(not Vlad, thats the only hard countered champ by Nasus).

You also seem to think that Nasus, the immobile jugg, is good in late game 😕😕😕

You tried playing him vs good players? You will get kitted for days...

Sleeping BatMar 1, 20201 votes

Nasus with 600+ stack is not good in a late game

[sg-lux-2] And this 1 trick pony is trying to teach someone to play.

Jng AccountMar 1, 20201 votes

Yes, bcs 1k stacks wont help you if you cant touch your target(adc). Nasus isnt late game champ in any serious elo...

(so Im no longer boosted? Only otp? Still better than ya tho)

Sleeping BatMar 1, 20201 votes

nasus can't touch target(adc) with his OP W slow

[zombie-nunu-tears] Suck to be you.

Jng AccountMar 1, 20202 votes

1v1? Totally, adc dead.

With team that has average IQ, Nasus cant touch his main target until he eliminates cc bots, in which case, he will be deleted by adc...

Use brain, I know its hard to admit that you arent always right, but try it...

DeTargaryenMar 2, 20201 votes

Hahaha so true, I've made many Nasus on the lane rage with my main Teemo. lmao

IMelchorIMar 2, 20201 votes

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Hahaha so true, I've made many Nasus on the lane rage with my main Teemo. lmao

it is more than that. what a lot of people have trouble understanding is that nasus has to stay in lane. he has to stay there for at least 10 minutes and stack so he can do something later.

i have won a lot of games by just pushing minions and then roaming to mates in other lanes and getting kills and dragons and rift herald.

you have the ability to either prevent nasus from stacking. if that does not work then you also have the ability to outroam and win the game before his stacks become useful.

when enough people on your team get fed then even a lot of stacks on nasus will not do anything. he is so easy to kite that there is no way for him to solo carry a game unless your team runs into his melee range one by one.

Sleeping BatMar 2, 20201 votes

if that does not work then you also have the ability to outroam and win the game before his stacks become useful.

Not in the current season, now you can't leave top lanes even for 10 seconds. But the good news is that most likely the game will end before Nasu come online, but it still rages that the changes this season allow him to hold you hostage in lane.

MightySurturMar 1, 20205 votes

Most of the champs youve mentioned are either doing BAD or OKAY but by far nasus is low elo stomper and therefore i guess that you are not higer than gold,therefore you should not be suggesting items that were nerfed hard in last few season(except sunfire which was overbuffed) so yeah,maybe instead of bitching about them you should actually look why thouse champ are beating you and find way to counter them.And for real nasus????one of the worst champs in the game,i havent seen him in 2 years in soloq like wtf and back in flex when i mostly see him hes either dying alot or just spliting cause other than that hes USELESS

muted team chatMar 1, 20205 votes

There are so many champs I see in champ select where I go "uh oh, yi (or whatyever) is a mental stat-check, probably gonna lose this" and surprise surprise, we do lose. People will go try and 1v1 yi in bot lane rather than taking a free baron because he is positioning like trash. THIS JUST HAPPENED IN MY LAST GAME. I even typed a warning to not do it then my team just walks in to him single file.

I don't want to play the braindead champs that win nonstop in solo que, but I get punished so hard for not doing it. I want to have fun, but I'm not even sure how to do it in this game anymore.

TommyTicklerMar 1, 20205 votes

I dont even remember the last time I seen Trundle get picked.... "needs a nerf" my ass

Toki Joki LokiMar 1, 20203 votes

Stacks should only be by 2, ESPECIALLY WITH NASUS when he already scales with ap and ad from his q.

So are we going to just pretend like he didnt just say Nasus Q scales with AP and AD? Sorry to tell you dude but Nasus Q only scales with AD and the amount of stacks he has. His E damage and the radius around him he R does however scale with AP, but very very low.

AnnestriaMar 1, 20203 votes

I would just reduce setts true damage and reduce his shield. I do feel like Nasus might need a cap but, at the same time.. Its kind of who ever lanes against him's fault also, the jungle probably should have pitched in to.

I don't like playing against Yasuo but, hes fine maybe a bit safe but, Farm under tower, dodge his tornado, and don't try to CC him while he has his wind wall up.

Diana is a walking Armed Nuclear Warhead from what I have heard, she all ways has been at least till recently and then she recently got buffed again.

Darius is fine.

Garen is widely considered to be a bad character, Hes strong against players who like myself, Lack knowledge/game sense but, hes considered unplayable past diamond.

I don't have an issue with Fizz.

Shaco.. I think all stealth based characters should be removed its proven nearly impossible to balance not just in league but, every other online game that has stealth.. Halo, WoW, GW2, ect..

I don't have an issue with Talon.

I don't have an issue with Trundle.

Ornn is kind of on a line. Hes strong but, I don't feel like hes unbeatable.

I don't have an issue with mordekaizer. Dodge his grab, you just nullified most of his threat tords you.

I don't like Sylas Personally, His combo is a bit to good but, nothing some slight damage tweaking wouldn't fix.

I have no issue with Caitlyn infact, Its usually Caitlyn/Morg/Nautalius,leona, and that can be said for most characters.

just CC Yi. Charmed, rooted, Feared, silenced, knocked up, and murder him.

Honestly, I kind of understand Heimerdinger but, Zyra is small potatoes compared to the headache Heimerdinger is for me. lol

I don't know what that spear item is called but, I have only seen it built on Caitlyn and it doesn't seem to be that good.

Sunfire cape is fine.

I completely agree Trinity force needs to be closer to 6K gold considering the fact is can double or even triple any characters damage for using a spell. However, such an outrageous price would flat out kill the item. they might as well remove it at that point.

I have no issue with Warmongers. Even on characters who have high HP regen like Garen, just build Grievious Wounds. Morellonumocon/Mortal Render and the item becomes ineffective.

most of these Characters/Items are not problematic on there own.

I mean, give Garen with Warmongers and Spirit Visage Maybe you done goofed a bit. but Warmongers is not that that bad.

Sunfire cape is an item that burns you when they get to close.. the solution, Don't let them get close.

Personally I would rather see Singed gone but, not because I think hes over powered or anything like that. I just think hes anti fun to play against. Hes widely considered to be a troll pick, he free farms waves. if you try to kill him he runs away if you chase to long you die. If you get close enough to him to kill him he teleports under tower. Over all hes just not fun to play against and his player base are even more toxic then he is.

YodonashiMar 2, 20201 votes

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I have no issue with Warmongers. Even on characters who have high HP regen like Garen, just build Grievious Wounds. Morellonumocon/Mortal Render and the item becomes ineffective.

I mean, give Garen with Warmongers and Spirit Visage Maybe you done goofed a bit. but Warmongers is not that that bad. is.

Anyone building Warmogs on Garen doesn't know how to play the game. Garen does not have high base regen which is what Warmog's affects. His passive however gives extra regen. Things like item 1006 which gives the regen boost in item 3083 do not boost garen passive just like Legend Alacrity or the Attack Speed rune don't affect his spin speed.