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Vayne Needs A Nerf ...

Zinestro·9/21/2015, 2:48:12 AM·16 votes·1,707 views

Vayne is supposed to be a LATE GAME adc but gets a power spike at lvl 5 with three points into silver bolts and an even bigger one at lvl 6

too make matters worse most ADC's that don't bully her during laning phase get decimated all through out the game and people argue that she's a glass cannon and has short range but that's not much a of a trade off for the over the top dmg she can put out not just to squishy champions but to tanks as well

and say you go even you still can't safely farm your lane without your support because if she comes up on you flash heal wont save you from the insane dmg she'll put out and it feels oppressing and just frustrating

another huge problem with the champion is that their are ways to dealing with her , but in lower elo people usually dont have the macro mechanics to pull it off

and if i were to nerf this champion i would reduce the dmg of her w at lower ranks and increase the dmg of her ultimate at lower tanks

another thing to consider is the nerfs to frozen heart item 3110 and the addition of item 3050

14 Comments

The Griefer King9/21/2015, 2:52:17 AM2 votes

she needs a buff. so easy to beat

alfavhunter9/21/2015, 3:12:07 AM2 votes

She could use a minor early game nerf to her safety

For example, they could nerf her base mana regen and increase its growth, this would make tumble less spammable at lower levels, resulting in less safety through less tumble spam

That's all she really needs

Marthian9/21/2015, 3:16:23 AM2 votes

Part of the problem is the best item to rush on Vayne is BoRK: It basically mitigates her weak early game due to the build path being super forgiving, and gives her a similar power spike to carries rushing IE, except she gets it sooner/cheaper, gets sustain (as part of build path), and has a solid active ability. IE, by comparison, has a terrible build path and costs more if you want sustain.

Infinity Edge has 3 costly components, costing 730g, 875g, and 1550g, and 645g for the combining all three. If you are behind, those costs are very prohibitive to catching up.

Blade of the Ruined King, by comparison, is piecemeal in it's construction, the cheapest piece is 360g, and the most expensive part is combining Bilgewater Cutlass and Recurve Bow, both are pretty good components on their own (and as mentioned, are piecemeal in their components) It's extremely forgiving if you fall behind.

Both items give a comparable power spike, so if you are ahead, BoRK can be finished slightly faster. Behind? IE doesn't have any cheap components to help you keep up.

So why doesn't every carry rush BoRK over IE then? Because many carries scale better with AD (Such as Miss Fortune, Ashe, and sometimes Jinx) while other carries scale better with Attack Speed (such as Vayne, Kalista, and sometimes Jinx.)

Edit: BoRK in general is a very strong item anyways not just because of carries, but also Auto attack fighters, who basically only need this to deal threatening damage.

doiminat0r36009/21/2015, 9:13:56 PM2 votes

people argue that she's a glass cannon and has short range but that's not much a of a trade

Glass cannon except that you can peel for yourself almost any time and you can build anything and still have the True Damage there. The short range is false as well because it's the same as Teemo's and over Lucian's Range: 550. That's Standard.

Musashi 0019/21/2015, 8:26:40 AM1 votes

Doesn't her passive allow her to chase down weak enemies as well? Isn't that a bit much?

BeMyFriendPlease9/21/2015, 10:20:19 AM1 votes

%maxhp true damage changed to flat true damage. Boom, now shes an adc, not a "literally everything dies to me" button

Except teemo. Teemo absolutely bends her over and has his satanic way with her