Please nerf Garen holy sht litteraly so op

Abyss Trashlord9·Oct 31, 2018·1 votes·1,475 views

Cant do sht against him if ur playing melee dude can build a cleaver first item then full tank but still manages to out dps with e and q with a 600+ true dmg ult go fk urself riot

27 Comments

DaCurtisOct 31, 20181 votes

lol

Jennifer420Oct 31, 20181 votes

well you arent really supposed to 1v1 him if you are marked as the villain.

Abyss Trashlord9Oct 31, 20181 votes

Does not matter impossible to lane against him unless u play ranged pick which is cancer. Its so much fun when he just qs u under tower uses w and then spins u then just fking walks out having taken 4 tower shots but reducing most of the dmg then just heals it back up so fking aids to play against him with melee.

JamareeOct 31, 20181 votes

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Does not matter impossible to lane against him unless u play ranged pick which is cancer. Its so much fun when he just qs u under tower uses w and then spins u then just fking walks out having taken 4 tower shots but reducing most of the dmg then just heals it back up so fking aids to play against him with melee.

Play ranged champions against him then?

WoΘxerOct 31, 20181 votes

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well you arent really supposed to 1v1 him if you are marked as the villain.

So whats the counter play if u get villain? just abandon your lane and camp nexus?

This champ is frustrating for any melee top, specially for fighters.

JamareeOct 31, 20181 votes

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So whats the counter play if u get villain? just abandon your lane and camp nexus?

This champ is frustrating for any melee top, specially for fighters.

Play...ranged champions...against him.

WoΘxerOct 31, 20181 votes

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Play...ranged champions...against him.

What if I am first pick?

So I must know he is playing Garen?

JamareeOct 31, 20181 votes

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What if I am first pick?

So I must know he is playing Garen?

Trade, lane swap?

WoΘxerOct 31, 20181 votes

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Trade, lane swap?

Yeah good idea to send a mage or even an assassin top, besides it's a Viktor ofc.

JamareeOct 31, 20181 votes

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Yeah good idea to send a mage or even an assassin top, besides it's a Viktor ofc.

I mean, most mages will do better then most melee tops, because they are ranged.

WoΘxerOct 31, 20181 votes

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I mean, most mages will do better then most melee tops, because they are ranged.

If they are ranged doesnt mean they gonna do better, most of the time mages aint swapping and doesnt want to sacrifice their safer lane into more wide and longer lane for escape routes during ganks and stuff.

JamareeOct 31, 20181 votes

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If they are ranged doesnt mean they gonna do better, most of the time mages aint swapping and doesnt want to sacrifice their safer lane into more wide and longer lane for escape routers during ganks and stuff.

Then you will have to get better with your champion and get better at the match up, learn the windows of opportunity to actually attack and engage.

WoΘxerOct 31, 20181 votes

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Then you will have to get better with your champion and get better at the match up, learn the windows of opportunity to actually attack and engage.

Thats the whole point of this season, pick a better champ to win, off meta champions are benched.

Poro LordOct 31, 20181 votes

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Trade, lane swap?

I don't really have a dog in this fight, cuz I kinda like Garen , but I think this attitude is wrong.

Sometimes you just are forced to lane against shit.

You pretend like it is not a problem, because theoretically your mid lane will be willing to swap.

If a champion is too strong, "cough Akali cough" and it just sucks to lane against, you can't always be last pick.

JamareeOct 31, 20181 votes

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I don't really have a dog in this fight, cuz I kinda like , but I think this attitude is wrong.

Sometimes you just are forced to lane against shit.

You pretend like it is not a problem, because theoretically your mid lane will be willing to swap.

Fine, I will just say it then, players who complain about Garen are just bad, I was trying to sugarcoat it. He is literally only a problem at low elo, once you get past it, players start knowing and understanding how to fight him.

If a champion is too strong, "cough cough" and it just sucks to lane against, you can't always be last pick.

You know, for 99% of the ranked playerbase, you have a higher chance winning against Akali then most champions, you know that right?

Poro LordOct 31, 20181 votes

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Fine, I will just say it then, players who complain about Garen are just bad, I was trying to sugarcoat it. He is literally only a problem at low elo, once you get past it, players start knowing and understanding how to fight him.

You know, for 99% of the ranked playerbase, you have a higher chance winning against Akali then most champions, you know that right?

Ok here is another example.

Yasuo

I have played vs him enough times, that I can beat him at least 50% of the time.

And 50% is not bad right?

BUT I STILL FUCKING HATE IT!

His dash, dash, dash, dash,

Even if I time his Q, and be careful of that, the constant fucking dashing annoys me.

Some champs you just hate.

Let me list a few more.

Some of these champs I never see, but I will just list the ones I think really frustrate people.

Akali Darius Evelynn Fiora Garen Heimerdinger Irelia Leblanc MasterYi Nasus Pantheon Rengar Shaco Singed TahmKench Teemo Tryndamere Veigar Vladimir MonkeyKing Yasuo Zoe

I just went through every champ, and those are the ones that stood out as annoying as fuck.

JamareeOct 31, 20181 votes

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Ok here is another example.

I have played vs him enough times, that I can beat him at least 50% of the time.

And 50% is not bad right?

BUT I STILL FUCKING HATE IT!

His dash, dash, dash, dash,

Even if I time his Q, and be careful of that, the constant fucking dashing annoys me.

Some champs you just hate.

Let me list a few more.

Some of these champs I never see, but I will just list the ones I think really frustrate people.

I just went through every champ, and those are the ones that stood out as annoying as fuck.

There is always going to be champions people hate, if the game was balanced on which champions were most annoying, the only champion that would do damage is Ashe.

Jennifer420Oct 31, 20181 votes

its kinda a fault in the entire season not just in one champ. its weird that AFTER garens e armor shred got nerfed from 30% to 24% that ppl start to say "he is so op, no counterplay" because BEFORE THAT NERF almost noone gave a fuck about garen lol

WoΘxerOct 31, 20181 votes

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its kinda a fault in the entire season not just in one champ. its weird that AFTER garens e armor shred got nerfed from 30% to 24% that ppl start to say "he is so op, no counterplay" because BEFORE THAT NERF almost noone gave a fuck about garen lol

Pretty much true.

Myren QuiddleOct 31, 20181 votes

I do think his passive is bullshit. Also, I never got why he doesn't use mana, that'd force him to build differently... But, just pick Ornn vs him and you're fine :)

Baron BarianOct 31, 20181 votes

People, please be patient with buddy. He's only level 11 and is clearly new to the game.

Poro LordOct 31, 20181 votes

FYI I played garen tonight in a normal.

Built a dorans blade, and NO other ad.

Ult on a squishy late game for 65% LOL

Then you run away and press Q while whole team chases you.

Double dip in tenacity runes, and get merc treads, for maximum trolling.

Good times.

Veigar stun? lasts like .25 seconds lol.

Just run away forever at 5% HP.

The Bad TouchOct 31, 20181 votes

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FYI I played garen tonight in a normal.

Built a dorans blade, and NO other ad.

Ult on a squishy late game for 65% LOL

Then you run away and press Q while whole team chases you.

Double dip in tenacity runes, and get merc treads, for maximum trolling.

Good times.

stun? lasts like .25 seconds lol.

Just run away forever at 5% HP.

I love how people completely talk out their ass.

175 / 350 / 525 (+ 28.6 / 33.3 / 40% of target's missing health)

EVEN if they are the villain they'd have to have less than 1k health for this to be true.

Late game 2/3 my ass. A level 8 Caitlyn with an unsold cull has more HP than that.

If you are calling a level 7 Caitlyn with a item 1055 and item 1038 "late game" then you sir are an idiot.

Garens Ulti vs a non villian tank mid game won't finish them off unless they are under 25% hp or built no MR.

Funny that you mention Veigar though. Against non villain tanks from mid game onward his ulti does far more than Garens and from a much further range. Garens Ulti vs a non villain target generally only does about the damage as an ignite would as an FYI.

If you want to see an OP single target damage ulti look at Cho'gath

Poro LordOct 31, 20181 votes

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I love how people completely talk out their ass.

175 / 350 / 525 (+ 28.6 / 33.3 / 40% of target's missing health)

EVEN if they are the villain they'd have to have less than 1k health for this to be true.

Late game 2/3 my ass. A level 8 Caitlyn with an unsold cull has more HP than that.

If you are calling a level 7 Caitlyn with a and "late game" then you sir are an idiot.

Garens Ulti vs a non villian tank mid game won't finish them off unless they are under 25% hp or built no MR.

Funny that you mention Veigar though. Against non villain tanks from mid game onward his ulti does far more than Garens and from a much further range. Garens Ulti vs a non villain target generally only does about the damage as an ignite would as an FYI.

If you want to see an OP single target damage ulti look at Cho'gath

I just looked at my match history, and It was a graves. He said "65% from just your ult, cool"

I remember him saying that. maybe he was exaggerating.

And he was the Villan.

I fucking nuked him.

EDIT: I see the confusion. When I did my ult he WAS below 25% health.

I think he meant, that it did so much damage, it would equal 65% of his health.

i am not saying my ult killed him at 65% health.

The Bad TouchNov 3, 20181 votes

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I just looked at my match history, and It was a graves. He said "65% from just your ult, cool"

I remember him saying that. maybe he was exaggerating.

And he was the Villan.

I fucking nuked him.

EDIT: I see the confusion. When I did my ult he WAS below 25% health.

I think he meant, that it did so much damage, it would equal 65% of his health.

i am not saying my ult killed him at 65% health.

Urgot does 9999. Nerf.

Pyke insta kills. Nerf.

Poro LordOct 31, 20181 votes

As much as I love playing Garen though, when I face him the thing that really pisses me off is the silence.

In a team fight, if he gets that Q on you, you are pretty fucked.

You can't even flash away.

I HATE THAT.

I can deal with his other bullshit.