Supports being reworked into jungle?

GayIranian··1 votes·418 views

So ive started playing ivern jungle, and i loved it. After i had played my game i saw how much usefull i was for our adc and made him almost unkillable in 40m when he had 2k health. I was the supp but just in jg, right? Giving me the option what player to support in lanes since when ur support bot ur kinda stuck bot all the time or ur adc will prob not be able to hold lane. What im thinking rn is if riot could rework a supp like they reworked graves. A good example could be braum myb, if they reworked his dmg ratios an rework his r and q, w maybe could also work as a lee w almost. That way his shield woul allow him to remain bot but also face tank jg camps, so myb if a enemy champ hits his shield it goes away faster but jg camps it takes longer. Also his passive is shorter on monsters. I would love that myself and probably all players especially junglers and supp that can play another lane with their normal champ but with a diffrent role. If ya know what i mean? Like graves and ivern

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Zone of Endless2 votes

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He's made to be a jungler. He's a support jungler.

GayIranian1 votes

Thats what i mean, we need more reworked bot champs put into junglers, especially supp

Chønklord1 votes

Ivern always was a jungler from release.

GayIranian1 votes

Yes but his role is supp, and his consept is to supp while not having to fight camps. Why not make a alike supp jg

Chønklord1 votes

His role is jungle -- he's just a different type of jungler that is more support oriented than battle oriented.

He's not actually a "support" in the classical sense; his whole kit revolves around clearing jungle camps.

He's pretty useless without smite.

I agree, I would like to see another "Ivern-like" jungler, but I don't see that happening for a variety of reasons.

Plus, there's nunu.

GayIranian1 votes

I probably wrote it wrong but what i ment was that ivern works as a supp jg because he doesnt have to fight the camps, and i feel like nunu doesnt fit the same way since 3 of his abilities are dmg and not supp ur team at all. What i mean is a supp with a more tank oriented like i said before braum. And i didnt mean ivern is a main supp role if u thought so, i mean ashe is secondary supp but thats 100% bs anyway

Chønklord1 votes

Yea ... I think you wrote it oddly, and I also think you might be a little confused on champion roles/identities...

Nunu's spells all empower either himself or teammates (besides his AoE ult and his snowball);

Ashe is most definitely not a secondary support, ever. She can be played in the supp role -- but then again, so can most champions (except assassins, they're not effective in that role).

Roles in league are (or should be) very fluid... they're not set in stone, nor do they keep you from playing certain champs in other roles/lanes.

I've seen a braum go jungle and have very effective ganks.

GayIranian1 votes

Man were geting out of the main thing, i just want supp to be in more lanes than bot and really ivern is the only one, nunu is 100% belonging in mage or tank but the champ is so old they fucked it up. And thank you for saying that braum works good in jg now, but we both know he needs a graves kind of rework to be meta.

AlienPrimate1 votes

Next patch Taric will probably be a viable jungler with his Q reset. He should be able to get runic echos to sustain mana and then just perma spam his Q to reset his passive with a tiamat to clear pretty quick. The rest of his build won't matter after that. You could go fighter, tank, or support. I already jungle with him right now and he works decently but his clear speed is kind of slow. Resetting his passive for every single auto attack will boost his clear speed considerably.

GayIranian1 votes

See the thing is riot isnt going to allow it if u play it. Im guessing that because other people will play it too and they will notice it. They will most likely just fix him so he is supo again. But thats fine because idk if its good if we try to force supps into jg but instead riot can perfect them. Also another problrm is if itd viable probably every other jg is more viable. Its almosr like aatrox, everythign he can do other champs can do better

AlienPrimate1 votes

I don't try forcing supports to the jungle. I just really enjoy Taric and play him in every roll but ADC. When I take Taric jungle, I do really well unless I get counter jungled because half my jungle will be gone before I even get there due to the slow clear speed before he gets some items. I don't think other people will play him in the jungle because most people don't like mana gated champions. Just look at who has had the lowest play rates in the past and got reworked because of it. Yorick, Galio, Urgot, Sion, and Poppy are the main ones.

GayIranian1 votes

Cool that you play in a diffrent way, i guess taric jg works if not vs stuff likr shaco, ivern, lee, graves etc... Maybe ill try him jg flex sometime

AlienPrimate1 votes

If you do try him, my preferred build in the jungle with him is item 1402 item 3025 item 3748 item 3065 item 3068

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