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Certain Champions can't be good because of unskilled players...

dude30500·2/16/2018, 8:42:45 AM·3 votes·615 views

Basically champions like Yi, Trynd, Garen, Darius and Kat can't be "good", and i mean good at a high level because they pubstomp too hard at lower elo. Well no matter what state the champions are in, players are going to cry about these champions and other things instead of trying to improve. I mean I agree it's not fun to get rekt by a Garen every game, But at LEAST make them a niche pick in some way or form that isn't as autoloss for high elo/competitive play. It takes way too long for LoL to see these changes to even address these issues if Riot wants there to be no "anti-fun" champions. It would also remedy the LCS issue where only 15 champions get play. I know many people and streamers have issue with the live Team balance.

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Pika Fox2/16/2018, 1:10:36 PM2 votes

Trynd was a good high level counter to jayce

Garen is capable of working at higher level

Kat is good right now in high level play

Darius has been used in tournaments

The only "non viable" champ you listed was yi, and even he can be used by a yi main.

Jamaree2/16/2018, 8:46:06 AM1 votes

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Basically champions like Yi, Trynd, Garen, Darius and Kat can't be "good", and i mean good at a high level because they pubstomp too hard at lower elo. Well no matter what state the champions are in, players are going to cry about these champions and other things instead of trying to improve. I mean I agree it's not fun to get rekt by a Garen every game, But at LEAST make them a niche pick in some way or form that isn't as autoloss for high elo/competitive play.

How without making them annoying like you state?

 It takes way too long for LoL to see these changes to even address these issues if Riot wants there to be no "anti-fun" champions. It would also remedy the LCS issue where only 15 champions get play. I know many people and streamers have issue with the live Team balance.

The problem with the system is that the devs try to please everyone rather then just the upper crust, but if they did, people would get pissed. So they try to blanket make everyone happy which doesn't work.

DragonShea2/16/2018, 10:34:39 AM1 votes

I say tough shit, I've had to deal with those sucker and know that darius has been nerf'd He is a joke. he doesn't feel scary because people know that he melee only and people that people that play melee champs have to realise that he has weaknesses that are designed to promo smarter play as darius because many people just play those champs for the sake of stomping the lane and if someone that is will to fight them but ain't gonna want to play ball with those fuckers. you can expect of outplays that is gonna piss off those Darius and Trynda mains.

Jinx Hunter2/16/2018, 1:43:16 PM1 votes

its the same for XinZhao

FurriesAreHot2/16/2018, 2:58:36 PM1 votes

Not every character can be viable in the high tier, never video game with a roster above 10 will ever have every character viable in all tiers. If all Riot did was balance around pro play, every rank under Gold would be flooded with the same character over and over and over and over.

Iasam2/16/2018, 3:08:32 PM1 votes

idk why you would even be concerned as a person who hasnt been past plat 5. There are tryndamere one tricks, pantheon one tricks, master yi one tricks, teemo one tricks, and a LOT of kata one tricks in high elo(like d2+).

Right now ipav is in top 50 challenger as teemo main and also playing garen. foggedftw3 is rank 101 tryndamere main. Keegan plays pantheon and has like 5 accounts in challenger every year. And then the famous rank 1,2,3 from last year tf blade who is pretty much akali one trick.

All those champs are pretty basic mechanically and people play them in challenger every year. Nerfs aren't holding them back.