About Rammus rework (not a raging thread, read if you want to give visibility to a big problem IMO)

BloodySeth·5/19/2017, 12:35:04 AM·1 votes·679 views

Okay... Like I said, I'm not one to say "oh Riot retarded blablabla". But as a guy who has played A LOT of rammus, and actually done it in a bit of an uncoventional way maxing Q first from a lot of time ago (which makes the playstyle more similar to what he is now) I really, really have to say something.

The rework concept? As he would say, ok. Several nerfs, some buffs, he changes a bit but I can live with that. I can live losing damage in Q and ult, even though I dont really get why. I can even live with the W slow so, as you say, there is more decision making. But I really would like someone from riot to acknowledge two things, and this are things that I think most people who says "ah, the rework is a buff" don't take into consideration, problably due to lack of experience with the champ.

  • First, the self slow is too high. The idea is acceptable, but as many people have said, it's too much and makes following up and using it defensively while trying to scape nearly impossible. I already expect they will reduce it a bit so well, that's it. There's also the fact that a lower cd on both Q and W partly compensates so you can just turn W off, Q again and W again etc, but I have to say you're not thinking about the fact that more spamming means more mana. The costs reduced a bit (only a bit) would be nice. Also, for no reason at all you actually deal less damage than before with it at all stages in the game, which is bad but wouldnt be THAT bad considering other buffs if it wasn't cuz it really hurts the early clear. Please atleast add some extra base damage to it (not the passive) or atleast against monsters or something.

  • Second, and WAY MORE IMPORTANT. I am sorry, but I find the channeled Q a TERRIBLE idea, and a HUGE, I mean, HUGE nerf that noone is talking about and that you barely acknowledge in the patch notes like it's nothing. All the contrary, and not only doesn't make sense as a playstyle, but also thematicly. It's not only items or ulti canceling it, it's the fact that you've made rammus a champ 3 times more kiteable. He went from a very good chaser that could keep running after being slowed a bit by cc and maybe, if you planned it right and have enough duration, still get the catch, to a guy that can be kited around throwing freaking Yasuo tornados, Mao Q's, hell even the freaking talyah ult interrupted my Q. It doesn't even have to be a more serious and direct cc like a lux Q or the like. That's seriously ridiculous and such a big, unjustified nerf and change, and I really really dont understand it. Sometimes my Q gets interrupted and I dont even know what happened. Yes, granted, you can win games because you're still Rammus and do rammus things, but in a lot of situations you get **** blocked in ways that are completely infuriating and unfair. Please, please, reconsider if not anything else, this. Feels absolutely horrible to play.

Thanks for your time, if you agree with me, please you know, upvote, comment or whatever to see if maybe someone in Riot can consider it... :( I hope.

PD: Now that I think about it, A SILENCE would actually stop your Q too. I mean... wtf? :S What sense does that make, he doesn't even talk, he's a rolling goron.

3 Comments

Ok sure but why5/19/2017, 12:42:33 AM1 votes

i personally never used those active item things during q, but i can appreciate the reasoning why it's bad

im also a rammus main, mang

Very Hard Engage5/19/2017, 2:05:08 AM1 votes

rammus has never been a problem before.

the only reason they're changing him now is change for the sake of change and to meet some end game goal of how they want league to be.

all in spite of having a perfectly functioning champion.

like you could only go down.

(insert hank hill... "you're not making league any better, you're only making rammus worse")

Naching5/20/2017, 6:14:17 AM1 votes

I will rage a bit...Riot is idiot... Killing Rammus when he was a balanced champ and fun.. I am not going to talk of Q....you said all.

W...

Now he is weak in 90% of battles and more bored because always was weak without W, but now he is a joke even with the W active, he lose his damage when the enemy moves ..even if the enemy is being a statue with the huge nerfs of damage and protection in all the skills Rammus is more poor than a group of minions...

And more...if you want follow someone you lose all your defenses cancelling W...Crazy and become one of the most nerfed tank/fighter in this game..

Its pathetic how Riot dont know anything about the players whises. They are killing champs because they are boreds in their box offices,

No way to this BIG nerf to rammus....SAD