nerf armor penn

Maxbox·Apr 29, 2019·3 votes·1,014 views

No point in playing tank anymore. Everybody just stacks pen and you get deleted. Can all the pen items get nerfed to make tank a viable option?

10 Comments

letsfeedtogetherApr 29, 20194 votes

You cant stack armor pen on like 90% of the champs

HP CrookshanksApr 29, 20192 votes

Maybe because they don't even need it? Vayne Yasuo Jax

boricCentaur1Apr 29, 20191 votes

Yas definitely needs pen, vayne's most built item is a pen item.

heroikcApr 29, 20192 votes

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Maybe because they don't even need it?

Two of them can build item 3124 , which has armor pen.

HP CrookshanksApr 29, 20191 votes

They are only examples. Vayne does insane amount of true damage and Jax does mixed damage. They don't rely on armor pen to kill tanks.

heroikcApr 29, 20191 votes

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They are only examples. does insane amount of true damage and does mixed damage. They don't rely on armor pen to kill tanks.

And yet Guinsoo's is still building Guinsoo's (which DOES give Armor pen per attack) and Jax grabs Guinsoo's and often Conqueror. They may not NEED it, but they sure can use it well. That also goes for MasterYi Kaisa Kayle

Thorn Fierce RedApr 29, 20194 votes

item 3075 item 3068

KirbyCakeApr 29, 20192 votes

armor pen is a non-factor. AD damage is so high to the point where they don't need any pen to delete tanks.

Tahminatrix Apr 29, 20191 votes

Lets also consider the fact that ad assassins...the main users of lethality.....can get away with building item 3071 which unlike item 3035 reduces your armor by a % therefore is calculated BEFORE lethality... making lethality much more effective...

But supercow you have to apply physical damage multiple times in order to put the armor reduction on them

True but assassins don't even need to buy the item for the passive...it already gives enough stats to compete with lethality items, a khazix with a item 3071 can duel a khazix with a item 3142 thanks to the 400 hp (Which is MASSSIVE FOR AN ASSASSIN TO GET) and 20% cdr.

The 15 less ad can hurt but that extra 10% cdr can be converted via transcendence....

MaxboxApr 29, 20191 votes

all good points, but it still leads to too many tank busters. There's no point in playing tank when everything melts you. Some champs are tank busters but with all the items supporting this, anyone and everyone can kill a tank.