Why does Trundle have such a bad winrate?
In plat+ he have a 47% but he didnt receive any big nerf in the past patch.
Why he sucks so much?
Its becausev of the ranged top meta?(Quinn, Jayce, Kennen and Kayle)
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I think its because of the ranged meta like you said. Trundle is good against tanks because of his ultimate and tanks just aren't being played atm because the meta counters them so hard. Singed dropped from 53% to 49% with this patch too.
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In plat+ he have a 47% but he didnt receive any big nerf in the past patch.
Why he sucks so much?
Its becausev of the ranged top meta?(Quinn, Jayce, Kennen and Kayle)
And no, it's not because of ranged top laners. Trundle easily sustains in lane against most of them, and once he accumulates enough items he can run at them and stomp them in a 1v1.
Easily counterable, as all simple champions. Anyone in plat+ knows how to abuse the match up. Thats why simple champions generally aren't seen in plat+ unless they're really just that strong.
The reason for Trundle being bad in solo queue is, well, solo queue.
His main assets (Pillar, tank-destroying ult) are much more useful in coordinated play, and he received nerfs for his strengths in that field. In solo queue, he cannot go toe-to-toe with a lot of the popular picks (he has losing match-ups against the 10 most popular top laners). Btw, of those 10 most popular tops, only 1 is ranged and 1 is pseudo-ranged, so I would not say we are in a ranged meta - at least not in solo queue.
Well, first of all, Quinn and Kayle aren't common picks. They are just good picks at the moment. Also, Kennen and Jayce really didn't start popping up more often until they were used in pro play very often, which is relatively recent. Trundle mainly has a bad win rate Top because the Jugg update made his previous lane strengths less notable in Top Lane. He can still steal stats and have his Pillar, but everything he can do offensively can basically be done better by someone else. It is better to put him in a position that doesn't make your team have one less super damage threat. Also, he is just not as good when you use him without a team. His ult isn't super apparent unless pointed out, so teams make better use of it. Also, his pillar is something that only teams really make good use of and can communicate proper placement of it.
he doesnt suck. he pretty much beats any melee 1v1 in lane and wins lane against any of them and can still duel them late game while having okay team fighting due to ult.
however ranged top laners rek him. we have a meta of full squish comps. he cant ult anyone to get a lot of stats
Trundle is a good duelist but not that great in team fights. If there's no dedicated tank on the enemy team his ult isnt that great outside of a 1v1. His pillar is great for jungle fights but it's pretty lackluster in open fights.
Trundle's win rate pretty closely follows tank metas as a result. Since we are in a carry meta he doesn't fair too well
he is strong against all melee tanks and brusiers, but the meta now is ranged top laner like gnar kennen jayce.
Trundle is an excellent jungler still. His incredibly healthy clears, powerful early game, and 80% AS buff make him a prime candidate for Bloodrazor BoRK.
He has a bad win rate cause all the noobs are playing him after they saw him back in LCS. They think "oh hes in lcs he must be op" so they spammed trundle support without even having a clue why LCS used him as support to begin with. Hence the win rate drops
They also doubled the CD on his Ult, which forces him into holding into it for the right moment instead of just throwing it into everyone he come across. Hurts his ability to duel a lot, which is truly the focal-point of his playstyle.
Tanks left top lane; it's all carries and ranged champs up there now, and both can beat Trundle when played properly.
Cuz hes a troll
recheck nerfs
Q no longer hits turrets base regen nerf R cd increased by around 40s at lvl 6
people keep taking him support.
and with the Q on towers being removed it really hurt his split pushing leaving him forced to be a team fighter which hes not the best at, albeit not the worst either.
gnar also seems to be making a comeback and he lanes well against trundle.
When defensive scaling is strong, Trundle is strong. Just like Mundo, he rises and falls with the meta.
Meta just doesn't favor him right now, with ranged pokers being popular top, the second tank meta comes back (that is a good joke there) he will be relevant again top