Garen "Rework" BROKEN AF.

SKT T1 Faker Bot·Aug 21, 2015·9 votes·12,267 views

As Garen being one of my favorite mains, I decided to try him out and I find that he's EXTREMELY broken. He literally two-shots ANY non-tank with Q->E, and brings down most tanks with such ease with several Q->E->Q->E->Ult combos. I recorded a video to show how broken he is now, and also a screenshot of my build that does an enormous amount of ridiculous damage with just two button presses and one click.

All non-tanks will cry.

I'm not complaining or anything, but it's going to be troublesome when people start using OP Garen builds that massacre through my future games.

Build Screenshot Is Attached: http://imgur.com/OxkKFn4

13 Comments

TacB VIPEREYENov 5, 20153 votes

He's naturally broken anyway.

-Manaless -Has a silence -Has a high magic damage execute (%HP added with justice) -Has a 30% bonus movement speed buff the doubles as an attack and a silence -Has unfair natural regen (can stay in lane forever, almost impossible to kill when played right)

Builds Black cleaver and is still tanky while dealing massive damage -Can dive your back line and still be an effective tank even if not attacking at all -Big hit box, good team fighter-----> works well with the regen

So why did riot nerf lee sin? Garen is the definition of overloaded, Wheres the counter play? The only way your going to do anything with garen is if the player is an idiot or you play a specific champ

King of BMFeb 6, 20171 votes

well he gets armor with w, health regen, true damage with ult, and he breaks through armor with e

basically "if you break my armor, i will press w, if you have armor, i will fuck it up with my e and true damage ult"

WeiseAzirAug 21, 20152 votes

oh its not fizz or leblanc quick! call the WAAAMBULANCE

zenKeyritoSep 4, 20152 votes

Garen is the most broken champ as of the recent update. He can sit under a turret alone in a 1v1 unphased, take the turret and then proceed to kill the opponent who was attacking constantly. Yeah you took away some of his base movement speed but that didn't help anything. He'll either spin to do damage, or spin to do damage then run away, or spin, q, then ult cuz you cant run from him. Either way hes gonna stay alive. Disable this broken champ till you find a proper fix to his kit. He's out of control.

Critmaster GarenAug 21, 20151 votes

thats the entire idea behind it?

see that lategame nasus? thats what garen is supposed to be aswell. they made his early game significantly weaker, removed sticking power, mobility and tenacity to make him actually more threatening when he does get into melee.

edit.: LOL

yea that has nothing to do with the item combination at all. titanic hydra active, stattic shiv passive and an infinity edge empowered q crit on a squishy.

with these items, pre rework garen would have done the same thing.

ima actually suprised he built steraks instead of dead mans plate, for the slow and extra 100 damage with the q.

SKT T1 Faker BotAug 21, 20156 votes

No. Before the rework, Garen E damage did about 1k damage at most, since there wasn't much scaling and only crits increased its static damage. Now after the rework, his E automatically deals 1500 damage at level 18 PLUS about 150~250 damage with my build, and then if he crits, deals around 2.5k damage, but wait! Then add an addition a whopping 33% MORE damage when attacking a single target, resulting in about 3k TOTAL damage from one E button press, which MURDERS most champions.

Edit: Theoretically, Garen deals at least 10k damage from a full Q->Titanic Active->AA->E->Auto->Ult combo with this build on a "enemy team nemesis" (player with most kills), while having baron + 5 dragon buff. He will downright wreck any team.

Critmaster GarenAug 21, 20151 votes

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No. Before the rework, Garen E damage did about 1k damage at most, since there wasn't much scaling and only crits increased its static damage. Now after the rework, his E automatically deals 1500 damage at level 18 PLUS about 150~250 damage with my build, and then if he crits, deals around 2.5k damage, but wait! Then add an addition a whopping 33% MORE damage when attacking a single target, resulting in about 3k TOTAL damage from one E button press, which MURDERS most champions.

this is specifically a build to stack on hit effects to increase the burst damage on his q.

he doesnt even need the spin on that jax. he takes 2/3 of his hp bar with that q and then could just ult him, or take the rest with the spin. because that dumbass sion doesnt throw an e against him and peels him off. neither does the jax ativate his e to block the q, or reduce the spin damage.

neither of the 2 attempted to block any of his damage or kite him. they let him run up to them.

with those items i could have literally done the same thing to any squishy, before the rework when my q crit. q, ignite, ult to make sure you kill them through summoner heal. that wasnt very tough.

SKT T1 Faker BotAug 21, 20151 votes

As you could see, Jax used his E already because he killed one of my teammates using it. By the way, I tried my Q on Jax while he was using E, for some reason it didn't block my Q damage at all. Is it a glitch with the Titanic Hydra's passive ability that allows me to attack through it?

Critmaster GarenAug 21, 20152 votes

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As you could see, he used it already because he killed one of my teammates. By the way, I tried my Q on Jax while he was using E, for some reason it didn't block my Q damage at all. Is it a glitch with the Titanic Hydra's passive ability that allows me to attack through it?

maybe, but either way. that jax was sqishy as fuck. i dont think he had any armor at all. you were full build and crit with the q with an infinity edge, and had on hit effects stacked on top of each other.

with a damage build like that i would be disappointed, if i couldnt fight that jax. if a jinx is allowed to crit a squishy for 1400 damage from 700 range, then garen should be allowed to dumpster a squishy in melee like that.

SKT T1 Faker BotAug 21, 20153 votes

Lol yeah, but the thing is, Jinx would also be super squishy. If a tank frontlined a fight and the other ADC and Midlaner focused Jinx with CC and massive burst + AA's, she would go down easy too. Didn't you see how difficult it was for them to try to kill me? They all barely left a scratch on me until Trist ulted me into their fountain, even so, I still didn't die. That's the issue with Garen, he deals almost 10k damage AND he's extremely tanky.

Critmaster GarenAug 21, 20151 votes

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Lol yeah, but the thing is, Jinx would also be super squishy. If a tank frontlined a fight and the other ADC and Midlaner focused Jinx with CC and massive burst + AA's, she would go down easy too. Didn't you see how difficult it was for them to try to kill me? They all barely left a scratch on me until Trist ulted me into their fountain, even so, I still didn't die. That's the issue with Garen, he deals almost 10k damage AND he's extremely tanky.

ya, jinx is super squishy, and has ranged hard cc, utility and 700 attack range. which allows her to deal her damage from behind a support and a tank.

garen is tanky, has only melee range and no cc beyond his silence.

so working as intended. their jobs are the same. the difference is more range vs. more defense.

SKT T1 Faker BotAug 22, 20151 votes

Okay... It seems that you will have a 100% chance of being fed using this build. But winning depends on if your team is trolling or not. I was able to kill fed enemies really easy but Fizz kept intentionally feeding and Caitlyn lost her lane bad. I actually dealt the most damage and took the most damage out of both teams. I also noticed that I had +18% crit damage from runes which boosts my skill crits alot. But overall, this is probably the best anyone can do after the 5.16 patch.

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