What would happen if we remove support roles completely out of league of legends

Asassing18·Mar 10, 2018·3 votes·897 views

So i was thinking of this awhile now.. What will happen if riot decides to remove support roles completely... Let's say they actually do it and now we are solo qing every game with 3 other people... So the game is going to be 4v4... Adc's will go bot like the normally do, jungler will be in his position like normal... top will play top and mid will play mid... The only difference is.. We now do not have a useless role that almost nobody likes. Here are all the benefits i can think of...

1)People will wait WAY LESS to play a game as all the roles would be fun so expect 30 sec MAX waiting time if that happens. Not 5-20 mints. 2)Here is the best part... NO MORE AUTO FILL!!! yeeeey. People will play whatever they want to play, they won't be forced to go in a role that they don't know how to play... People will be happy, toxicity will go down. Since it would be a 4v4 we won't even notice any difference. In high elo it is proven that the most games that end up with a loss are the games with people playing a position they don't know only because autofill is deciding their role for them. It makes the game unbalanced.. It makes ranks unbalanced. Supports are not necessary in league and the idea is retarded. It worked well in MMORPGS but let's be real.. it doesn't work with league of legends... It's a dead weight. Whats fakers role? Mid. Whats imaqtpie role? adc.. Nightblue3? yassuo? Hell even girls.. what's pokimanes main role? Or lilypichu's, or any other girl that plays league. I do not know a single one famous league player that plays main support an that's because support is a useless role/dead weight. Why riot doesn't make new support champions anymore? That's because nobody cares about a support champion.. 3)People will SHINE literally... Those players who are good at the game will shine even more in a 4v4 match up.. Why? Because the guy who is good does not have to carry 4 other players anymore but only 3. Thus, he will be more useful on a team fight and the game will be more balanced. Impossible games where you can't win no matter what you do will be less than now. People will not hard stuck in a rank for too long, it will be easier to climb. Since ranks will be more balanced people will be less toxic. 4) Support items are a joke, riot spends so much time trying to balance supports and support items in a way to not make them too strong for mid laners or anyone else to use them while its pretty much impossible because support is a broken role. The game would have been way better if all this time and resources were spent elsewhere. Riot will be able to focus on updates that actually matter and improving the game faster and we would be in a more advanced state of the game now.

Honestly the only negative i see is wtf are we gonna do with all those support champions if that happens and to that i will say.. remake them, make them mid laners or anything else.. This will be a huge change for the game but the positives outnumber the negatives and so people overall will take it as a positive change in my opinion. Either that, or riot needs to fix the support and make it more challenging and fun to play. What do you think?

24 Comments

Nut on my ButtMar 10, 20187 votes

Lots of champions become unviable. ADCs will not go bot for the same reasons they don't go top. Lots of people lose an existing role that they enjoy.

Asassing18Mar 10, 20182 votes

what do you mean adcs will not go bot for the same reason? i don't agree with that.. Adcs are very useful and right now they are the most played role so no.... and lets be real, nobody enjoys playing support.. At least in ranked games.. What if they remove support role only in ranked games?

I played a game like some mints ago.. look at this http://prntscr.com/ipelwv ... It happens every game

Nut on my ButtMar 10, 20182 votes

They are useful only because there is another role in the game to accommodate them by either setting stuff up for them or keeping them safe.

You'd probably see some of the more mobile ones mid lane, but never bot unless as a cheese pick. The lane is simply too long and susceptible to ganks and extended fights.

Just look at the twisted treeline meta.

Asassing18Mar 10, 20182 votes

The game would be simply better without them. Supports only work because the enemies has one aswell.. But in reality they are useless.. If you remove both support from both teams.. Adcs would be just fine by themselves

meowwow7Mar 10, 20181 votes

a person with something assassin related in his name with the team builder icon for assassins wanting supports out of the game well that's a no brainer it would be like an adc wanting assassins removed from league or tanks wanting adcs/bruisers removed from the game

Asassing18Mar 10, 20181 votes

Whats your main role... If its support then i shut up.. if its not then you should probably reconsider what you just said because there is a difference.. Nobody mains supports.. there is a reason for this.

meowwow7Mar 10, 20181 votes

i usually play Taric Karma but with the lack of hp in support items i've been playing some Alistar because he has the 2nd highest lvl 18 hp pool

Asassing18Mar 10, 20181 votes

You play those champions because you are forced to do so.. Are you a main support? Can you carry a game as a support?

meowwow7Mar 10, 20181 votes

it's my primary i even throw in mid secondary so that way i increase my chances to get support and considering i can item 3190 into a Taric ult to flip a team fight on it's head so mostly

SwiftKitten88Mar 10, 20181 votes

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Whats your main role... If its support then i shut up.. if its not then you should probably reconsider what you just said because there is a difference.. Nobody mains supports.. there is a reason for this.

i dont main support i main jungle, but i secondary support, and i play more supports than i do junglers. also i have support main friends... and my sister mains support...

Asassing18Mar 10, 20181 votes

You play more support than jungle because the game forces you to play your secondary role as there is nobody who wants to play this role.. think about this one for a sec. A game is forcing you to play something because most people don't like this specific role. Why would the game have a role like that then? and your friends play support with YOU.. What rank is your sister who mains support and does she plays alone or with friends all the time to make up the boring useless support role? I know those people who play support but they are always with a friend duo.

SwiftKitten88Mar 10, 20181 votes

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You play more supports than jungle because the game forces you to play your secondary role as there is nobody who wants to play this role.. think about this one for a sec. A game is forcing you to play something because most people don't like this specific role. Why would the game have a role like that then?

you missunderstand. i play more support CHAMPIONS than jungle champs.

i still play more jungle games...

Asassing18Mar 10, 20181 votes

I do not have a problem with support champions.. I have a problem with how the support ROLE is used in league of legends.. DONT take ANY KILLS, DONT farm, DONT jungle, DONT go alone.. dont dont dont dont

SwiftKitten88Mar 10, 20181 votes

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I do not have a problem with support champions.. I have a problem with how the support ROLE is used in league of legends.. DONT take ANY KILLS, DONT farm, DONT jungle, DONT go alone.. dont dont dont dont

you so in other words u mean you don't like being part of a team? You just want to do everything solo.

as a support your job is to set up the big plays... help ward the map.

yourt not just sitting there doing "nothing" watch the map, ward the map, set up the plays.. ping out objectives.. call the shots. give wring pings for allies getting ganks they might not see even if they have warded. and all the time poke down and try to find opening you can get your adc a kill with.

if your just sitting there doing nothing you are playing support WRONG.

your job is to SUPPORT.

DraehlMar 10, 20181 votes

You seem like you want a DPS battle royale or something. It wouldn't make for a bad game mode, but you falsely assume everyone is interested in being a one dimensional damage dealer. Not everyone that plays is a teenager who gets excited about seeing big numbers or killstreaks pop up on their screen. Plenty of folks like support and non-damage focused tank roles :)

Asassing18Mar 10, 20182 votes

You can still play champions and support your team without the support position been there. Basically do your lane and then support or tank as much as you want. Early game you play 1v1 mostly anyways.

DraehlMar 10, 20181 votes

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You can still play champions and support your team without the support position been there.

Well then. You sound like your only actual problem is simply being upset with queue times.

Asassing18Mar 10, 20182 votes

My problem is not only that.. My problem is the role itself. I am forced to play this role because nobody else is willing to in this game and when i do i dont really play the game.. DONT farm, Dont take kills, Dont jungle , don't go alone, dont this not that.. like wtf? you get what i mean?. My problem is that support is boring and relies on her/his team. Why would i play a game to get carried by others? I want to make the difference, i want to be on top and win the game, i want a lot of kills, i want to farm like everyone else and i don't want to just click a button to heal my adc and watch my adc die anyway in the end.... and as it seems, most people hate the support role for the same reason. How am i going to get to challenger as a support? The position support is what's the problem. I am not talking about the champions

DraehlMar 10, 20181 votes

You haven't played enough non-enchanter supports if you think the team always carries you. I suggest you give Thresh, Bard, or Rakan a try. You create great setups and often enough single-handedly win your team the game. I can count 4 instances in the past week where my Bard ult into a Redemption + Q stun specifically won us the game. Or play more of a mage support like Zyra, Brand, or Zilean if you want to more directly carry.

Asassing18Mar 10, 20182 votes

yes but all those champions you mentioned play top and other roles too.. For example thresh top is op

OnecimusMar 10, 20181 votes

I love playing the support roll. And many other people do too. I have no idea what you are talking about "no one plays it".

I've been autofilled to every other position besides support, so getting rid of that roll would not get rid of autofill.

Support is the most fun position in my opinion. All you focus on doing early game is poking and laning. None of this cs garbage others have to worry about. Late game you get those sick saves and peels. Can I carry as a support? If I pick the right champion, sure. Do I feel I am valuable to the team? Way more valuable than probly about 60% of top laners I play with. (no offence top laners, it's not you, it's the position your roll is in right now)

Also, an ADC cannot lane by themselves. otherwise they would for the solo xp if nothing else. Most of them are too easily ganked in the long lane.

PhDs NutsMar 10, 20181 votes

lol, supports carry the adc out of lane phase far more often than the reverse case. Supports can definitely carry games, too. If they couldn't, you wouldn't be complaining about their role.

I specifically remember an LCS game last year being completely controlled by an Alistar. I think it was Mata?

When I get autofilled, I always get put in the jungle. So there's that.

InTheoryMar 10, 20181 votes

I don't agree with your "flat out remove them without any exploration" yet I don't think it's something completely useless (coming from a support main) and don't want to judge it too quickly like many others do. But be sure to not only post such a stuff because you're frustrated.

Removing any class from the game is at least worth an exploration - but only in special gamemodes that are temporary and analysed. In the very process of that Riot can maybe learn more about the value and the goals of said classes and what removal of tham can lead to. I think it's definately an opportunity to learn, even if you don't see that side. Removing a class can lead to gaps in the way league is being played and come to cocnlusions how to design these classes or other classes that might overlap with these.