Why, as a soloq player, do I have to deal with 100% 4 and 3 queues in ranked. Where's my soloQ anymore? This new queue type is literally giving me cancer. I can feel it eating away at my soul as I'm typing this. If I don't respond, it's cause I'm in the hospital for my first session of chemotherapy.
Win1Ocent35 votesI hate that riot is trying to make way for the future. "We need to make this game suitable for the new generation, so it can grow into an olympic sport 5-10 years from now, we need to make sacrifices, so screw everyone who's made our game a success the past 6-7 years, we aim for the FUTURE" - Riot 2016.
This is how i feel as a veteran player. What was even the point of DQ? The game was already great, just build upon the success, we never needed DQ. As far as i know, a lot of casuals were perfectly happy with team builder, they don't need the competitiveness from ranked. Those who wanted competition, went duoQ or team ranked and everyone was happy.
What is Riot gonna do when streamers gets too sick of the queue times, can't stand the premades and just stops to stream, they lose sooooo much free publicity. But Riot is like, who cares if we lose the high elo players, they are the 0.01%, we want the other 99.9%.
So 5-10 years from now, congratulations Riot, you are now Blizzard, your game is world of warcraft, nobody takes it seriously, nobody is concidering it an e-sport and only casuals playing normal games, aram and urf are left playing your game. Was it worth it? I sure hope so.
A Miss Fortune19 votesIt's hard to disagree that Riot is taking the same path Blizzard took. Ignoring the majority of the fanbase in hopes to make the game better, but ultimately just ruining it and losing the respect they've gained over years.
Spicy Rice2 votesThere's over 27 million people who play league. In order for them to be ignoring the majority fan base, over 13.5 million people would have to be mildly dissatisfied with dynamic queue
Fovere13 votesThere's over 27 million people who play league. In order for them to be ignoring the majority fan base, over 13.5 million people would have to be mildly dissatisfied with dynamic queue
That's not exactly true.
All they would have to do is undermine the system that draws in all those players. The effects will be top down. If you think this isn't going to change how noncompetitive/ladder players experience this game, you are wrong.
Though it does raise the question, again, as to why you would consider these changes in the first place when a majority of players do not want to play on the ladder
A Miss Fortune10 votesIf you ignore the casual players who only play normals then the amount of people to be considered would be significantly less. Pretty much any serious player who doesn't prefer Dynamic Queue out of bias due to it's free boosting services, that I know of, prefers Solo Queue for a huge list of reasons.
Cenobite Azaziel4 votes[{quoted}](name=A Miss Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1B7ZoUAi,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-04-24T13:55:52.854+0000)
It's hard to disagree that Riot is taking the same path Blizzard took. Ignoring the majority of the fanbase in hopes to make the game better, but ultimately just ruining it and losing the respect they've gained over years.
Hahahaha. It's funny because you used respect with riot without the correct "NO"in between them.
Riot is backstabbing their customer bases since season 3~4 =].
Fovere7 votesIt is disappointing that instead of working off of what had been built up for 6 years now, they decided to instead destroy it in an act of incredible arrogance. There is literally no competitive gameplay this season, and combined with their changes to jungle/buff timers, dragon, and the mid season mage patch, we are going to see a very different League coming out of the end of Season 6.
Meanie4027 votesOne of their lead designers is the very person that began the fucking over of World of Warcraft.
So it's in his blood.
Zedex8 votesGhostcrawler is most certainly not to blame for WoW's current state (several expacs since his departure) and in Leagues case you're just looking for a scapegoat to blame. There is an entire team of decision makers, not just GC making these vast choices.
Meanie407 votesNote that I used the term "began". That very specifically indicates that not all decisions about its current state were his, but the general track was started by him.
Troll for Trump5 votesCertainlyT's innovative designs are great, but usually end up being really hard to balance (OP or UP).
Lyte is just....Lyte.
shyv7 votesi feel like lyte ruins everything he touches lmao
macromite2 votesahem 
MrWasjig2 votesCertainlyT's innovative designs are great, but usually end up being really hard to balance (OP or UP).
And therein lies his problem. Just look at each and every champion he's made. Chances are at one point or another, they've had serious balance issues. Heck even after several nerfs Kalista is still a priority pick in pro play :P
He'd be great as a fiction writer or something purely creative that didn't have to function (like a book, or comic etc), but as a designer for stuff that goes into a PvP game, stuff that has to work within a complex environment....yeah, he's questionable.
Pika3102 votesPerhaps, but at least CertainlyT isn't intentionally trying to indirectly remove champions/roles he personally hates from the game by purposefully gutting them with over 25 nerfs in a single patch. Basically what Fearless has been doing repeatedly since he joined Rito.
MrWasjig1 votesBasically what Fearless has been doing repeatedly since he joined Rito.
Which nerfs did he make then? I'm just curious is all :o
Pika3103 votesHis first project was removing Sona from the game, he succeeded in that in Patch 4.13. Next he went to ruin Jungling in preseason 5, it took something like 3 months-worth of directly buffing junglers, nerfing jungle camps and other numerous changes to finally making jungling a viable role again. After that, he apparently worked on the 'Juggernaut' update, so he's directly to blame for that fiasco which had a severe and direct impact on the World Finals. Most recently I know of, he went back to screw around with the jungle yet again, which AGAIN required a considerable amount of buffs to fix.
Everything Fearless has ever worked on in this game has been a disastrous failure that has had resounding negative aftereffects on the game.
Troll for Trump2 votesWell, Let's look at CertainlyT...
Release Darius was a nightmare for quite a while Release Zyra was...even worse. Zyra was a collaboration of 3 people, however, so that can be ignored a little bit. Thresh was broken on release, and could literally do every role Yasuo and Kali have been strong since forever, and one or the other is almost always breaking something in the game' And yeah Morde was one of the key reasons to the hatred of the juggernaut update
Feralpony also contributed to the Sona rework, and, even worse, he helped create Fizz
Pretty much all designers have some flaws too them, but they all have some good things too.
CertainlyT's trend for balancing however has been.....negative.
Pika3101 votesOverpowered champions can always be banned out. Nothing can be done for champions intentionally made unplayable the way Sona has been since they ruined her. If I'm a fan of an unplayable champion, I'd rather the reason be because they're perma-banned rather than that they've been made literally the weakest of their entire class. Eventually a perma-banned champ will get nerfed out of OP-tier, but Sona is living proof the weakest champs in this game aren't guaranteed to get buffed.
Not all Ritoers have good things. As I just pointed out, Fearless has only done bad things to this game and even his interactions with the playerbase has been nothing short of abusive and deceitful. He's not the only one either, Jag and GentlemanGustaf just to name a few have been just as disrespectful towards the customers as Fearless, if not even more-so.
Personally, I prefer CertainlyT's method of doing things far more than any of these 3 and then some. Even if it's just as negatively impactful balance-wise.
Troll for Trump1 votesSona is just bad, but she is not unplayable; Just not strong. She isn't the weakest champ, there are certainly worse. Nunu, for instance.
CertainlyT also ignores feedback from the community on PBE, and this can be seen with the feedback between players regarding the Mordekaiser rework.
Pika3102 votesWhether she is THE weakest champ in the game is debatable, but she's factually amongst the worst 10% and the weakest amongst the support class, which is specifically what I already stated. If being the weakest champ and lowest professional pickrate in your entire class and having a mathematically-realistic winrate of less than 35% doesn't make a character unplayable by YOUR standards, I dread finding out what would.
Troll for Trump1 votesThe only character with 35% WR is Nunu. (or was at one point) He really needs help. Same with Nunu in every other role basically.
Something interesting. Right now, sona has the third highest WR amongst supports, with number 1 being Soraka and number 2 being Janna(for plat+ranked)
Pika3103 votesThe only character with 35% WR is Nunu. (or was at one point) He really needs help. Same with Nunu in every other role basically.
Something interesting. Right now, sona has the third highest WR amongst supports, with number 1 being Soraka and number 2 being Janna(for plat+ranked)
...and the lowest pickrate of any champion picked into support professionally.
Let's stop beating around the bush already. Sona is in the bottom 1/3 of pickrates in Yolo Queue and the only reason she isn't the absolute lowest is because of her massive popularity amongst fanboys that's only rivaled by her massive tits. Which are non-coincidentally directly related.
The typical Sona player has extensively more experience playing her than the average support player has playing most other supports. Contrarily the average player has obscenely low experience playing AGAINST Sona and is unaware of the fact that she actually has the lowest damage output of the entire support class. Worse even, most sheeple suffer from the absurd misconception of her doing damage that's being misleadingly propagandized by the abuse of artificial numbers, namely Spellblade and Echo.
Sona's (artificial)"winrate" is a result of Sona mains abusing the masses' inexperience, misinformation and bronze mentality. The last being proven by the fact her winrate from Bronze to Diamond can fall up to 10% or more on any given day.
Sona is THE weakest support in the game. This is mathematical fact.
Throe8 votesEven with massive losses, WoW and Greg Street STILL refuse to believe, even though proof is in their face, that competitive games' popularity is driven from the top down, not from the bottom up. Stupifying a game, reducing character depth, and the types of changes we've seen in the last 2 years kill these types of games, and that bugs the hell out of these backward minded leaders with shallow thinking.
MrWasjig4 votesWe've seen this sort of thinking before. The type that's in for a quick buck rather than thinking of the long-term ramifications. Despite having a solid playerbase for 6 years Riot's now doing everything they can to sucker in the casual players for some easy money. Meanwhile ignoring the hardcore, die-hard playerbase. The exact playerbase that keeps a game like this alive!
PbJMpP4xzk2 voteswhat we really need is some peoples who make trends over the internet like h3h3 production and youtubers like him to make fun of the dynamicQ and make it look bad, they need to make it look like uncool to play dynamicQ so peoples would stop and riot has no choice but change this state of the game. (between its tell alot about how riot is a bullshit compagnie when even dunkey stop making league video)
KVbqbFsC8e27 votesThe worst part is that they lied about solo que for months. Forcing the failure that is Dynamic que onto the solo players is one thing, but the way they lied about solo que is just fucked up.
Aakesh16 voteseven Rocket League manages to have a good ranked queue
1vs1 2vs2 3vs3 solo 3vs3
That's all it took to make everyone happy. And Riot, a multibillion dollar company with basically limitless resources, didn't managed to get their shit together and fix it.
Rexxa12 votesAgreed. Bring back Season1-Season 4 queues. This is so stupid and irritating. The queue alone makes me so much more angry than soloq did.
Osaka 77811 votesI already quit the game. I cannot fathom why true solo queue players would defend Riot on dynamic queue. Or players in general in how Riot literally lied to our faces. The only thing we can do is stop playing LoL and stop spending money on RP.
CodyBear 8 votesWell what do you expect when Riot is working for China now. Wish they implement the Solo One Child Policy Queue for this game.
Aakesh9 votes[{quoted}](name=CodyBear ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1B7ZoUAi,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2016-04-24T18:20:21.842+0000)
Well what do you expect when Riot is working for China now. Wish they implement the Solo One Child Policy Queue for this game.
Tencent is shaddy as fuck. They tried to sabotage and kill Dota 2 even before it was released in China.
not only that Tencent is notorious in China with all its copycat software and shitty money-hoarding MMORPGs. It's like a free clown show.
CodyBear 8 votesThis doesn't look good for Riot.
Moral of the Story: Never make deals with China, you know how they are with their data and numbers. Not even real or reliable. They just like to show off until karma hits them.
Feral Instinct7 votesSad how many people in this gaming community use cancer as a joke.
KING ATTILA6 votesBesides the cancer remarks, you're right. it's shitty.
macromite6 votesno, this is the worst thing that riot has ever forced on its player base.
http://pm1.narvii.com/5831/5e52e6073e265d74c00f94c8fa56f5f0c9d67628_hq.jpg
Eevee In A Jar5 votesYeah it's the worst thing. Anyone defending Dyn Q at this point about how it's fair and it is competitive in comparison to Solo Q, you can't do anything but laugh. If someone told you gravity is actually because tiny pixies are pushing you down on the ground when you jump, would you take them seriously? Because that's what people basically say when defending Dyn Q. It's a fact it's not fair; if you are against a 4 man premade and you have no premade on your team, it's pretty obvious the enemy has an unfair advantage. In fact Riot used to defend Solo Q/Duo Q and recommended Team rank for players who hated Solo Q. Guess what? People still didn't rank up like they claimed with "better teammates," they just remained the same. Dyn Q on the other hand I see easily rank up people who don't belong.
Livores4 votes95% of my games have at least 3 premades. No chemo therapy could cure this kind of cancer.
tXQbsPrjN54 votesit's funny cause in 2 years this game will be dead and the people in charge who ruined it will have moved on to the next big game cause they get to write "was some important guy at Riot games, that billion dollar company, even though my days were spent doing nothing and occasionally taking 2 ad off Vayne"
Quepha3 votesWhy, as a soloq player, do I have to deal with 100% 4 and 3 queues in ranked. Where's my soloQ anymore? This new queue type is literally giving me cancer. I can feel it eating away at my soul as I'm typing this. If I don't respond, it's cause I'm in the hospital for my first session of chemotherapy.
Because you don't. There is no way you are 100% encountering 3 and 4 mans every game.
KarmasPolice2 votesI checked his last 5 games btw. The enemy team has a premade in each game.
Adolf Hit R3 votesDynamic Queue is the second worst thing, maybe.
is definitely the worst.
Zoeeee3 votesMine is termiral.
I've stopped playing on my main, so I can level a smurf. I also picked up Warframe, a fun ftp 3rd person pve game. One hour of Warframe is way more fun than two games in Elo hell.
OneSmoothDude3 votesRiotLyte, 5 months ago in a reddit comment:
We're going to try everything we can to make Dynamic Queue a great experience. If we don't manage to succeed here, it's super easy to go back to Solo/Duo Queue and trust me, the purists on the team have to be convinced this is a net positive for the overall playerbase before we keep this change.
Hmmm.
And it's not like this was a one-off comment, either. This comment was directly linked in a pretty significant thread that Lyte made on the boards around two months after he said that.
HMMM.
OurLordBison3 votes$$>fan base that simple
YGY8182 votesI want solo only que.
ConsciousBot2 votesI agree that dynamic que is really flawed. Its annoying, be it you are playing solo against a premade 4 men or vis versa. Not to mention you only get to choose two roles. Being a support/mid main, I can't even put support or fill as one of my role picks without knowing for a fact that I will get stuck with support. Which is annoying because I can only play mid and support at a decent level that will carry my team. (I mean I went 8~2 in placements and STILL got placed in bronze, I had to lux mid myself to gold). Then, when I get to gold, I was like "yea, BET I CAN SUPPORT DECENT PLAYERS NOW" but no, playing all (but one match) as support, I go down from 100lp at gold2 to 12lp at gold3. Just because I can never get mid and am stuck supporting bad players who blame their jg. I guess that I'm gonna take support out of my role choices now...... amd wait... what about the ranked games I play with my friends so that I can play the role I actually want? THATS NOT POSSIBLE, BECAUSE APPARENTLY GOLD PLAYERS CANNOT TEAM UP WITH BRONZE PEOPLE. should have left ranked team untouched.... dynamic que is ruining ranked games for me. URF was fun though =_____=
staticX262 votesI don't like to complain on RITO's decisions, but this is the worst shit happened to this game since i started playing in November 2010.
