Heimerdinger's Turrets vs. Zyra's Flowers

Major Mustard·Mar 24, 2015·2 votes·1,506 views

I am just wondering if anyone can enlighten me as to why Heimerdinger can place more turrets than Zyra can flowers, when Heimer's turrets: -Take longer to destroy -Deal a fuckload more damage -Dealing more damage FASTER -Begin dealing damage as soon as they are placed, unlike Zyra who has to use another skill just to activate.

I figure that it's because Heimerdinger isn't played so often. I don't know specific ratios and stuff but in general, I think he needs fixing.

8 Comments

TerffMar 24, 20152 votes

because thats what he specializes in.

Lord DusteonMar 24, 20152 votes

As a slight correction to the above, Zyra can get UP TO 8 plants out.

(assuming max CDR) 2 plants stored, both placed. Wait 14.04 seconds, place both seeds. 4 seeds placed. Wait 14.04 seconds. Q all 4 seeds, placed another 2. Wait 7.02 seconds. Place seed, Q. Ult all 7 activated plants. (Zyra's ultimate refreshes plant duration). Wait 7.02 seconds. Place seed, Q. You now have 8 plants out at once, 7 majorly buffed by ult.

Dr SuccessfulMar 24, 20151 votes

Zyra can place up to 4 seeds, equal to Heimerdinger if you include the ult turret. The main difference between them is that Zyra can plant seeds at a distance whereas Heimerdinger needs to walk up and place them ahead of time or at the opponent's feet. Essentially, Zyra is better at ambushes while Heimerdinger is better at setting up lines of defense.

ZahzMar 24, 20151 votes

Zyra can also buff her plants (up to 4 if u play it right) with her ultimate for more damage. Also dont forget her flowers apply a slow CC with the correct spell. Also i dont believe her flowers shut down if she leave them behind. Also i believe zyra can plant her flowers in her numbers from just one point where as heimer has that long timer. Also zyras seed spell provides a passive cdr leaving her some space for more dmg items

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXMar 24, 20151 votes

Heimer's Kit IS turrets. His other 2 spells are reliable, and his ult just upgrades them. Take Zyra plants away, you still have an easy to land aoe snare that does high damage, a circle long range nuke, and a giant aoe high damage knockup, all of which are reliable. Heimer has a very, very high damage unreliable nuke (ult rockets) aoe stun (Ult grenade), hard to hit stun, and a fairly unreliable damage ability. Everyone one of those skills are unreliable, unless you use rockets on a cc'd target.