There needs to be more counters to shield stacking.

lslands·3/17/2017, 9:13:22 PM·39 votes·4,064 views

Caitlyn Lulu Orianna Ivern Almost got me to uninstall the game. Grievous Wounds should affect shields they are way too powerful and are too abundant with masteries and items.

56 Comments

Tahminatrix 3/17/2017, 10:14:06 PM19 votes

heals are forever shields are temporary.......heals are normally consistent...shields are burst Unless morde to an extent.....heals are lane sustain...shields are damage avoidance....

You want to nerf the disengage worthy zoning that shields provide when they they are skills being used defensively rather then offensively? Its the safest form of zoning yet it is inherently mobile depending on the champ that receives it.

And safest as in you arn`t being zoned very hard from it....its not value that directly leads to independent damage.

byakugan1233/18/2017, 12:28:32 AM13 votes

is someone sad the assassin cant get through the shields that counter them?

Yara03/17/2017, 9:47:41 PM10 votes

yes thats a great idea lets make playing support even more aids.

Malicious Metal3/17/2017, 9:49:09 PM8 votes

Mordekaiser item 3070

Ariel the Cruel3/18/2017, 12:21:53 AM4 votes

Just add %max shield damage and shield pen. Preferably on AD items.

Problem solved. (>_>)


EDIT: 2.5 supports. I would hope the carry is hard to kill with that comp. (>_>)

Knoyle3/18/2017, 3:01:57 AM4 votes

With all the one shotting going around I think a comp that dedicates to shielding and coordination DESERVES to be rewarded. You know for an actual strategy.

AirKingNeo3/17/2017, 11:15:41 PM3 votes

They could just nerf all this shield amp bullshit. It's gotta too obsessive.

LexLutheran873/18/2017, 5:56:02 PM3 votes

Yes let's make the support crew more lackluster and the burst champs even more bursty.

Fights are over too quickly as it is.

The Deckowner3/18/2017, 3:08:04 AM2 votes

or we can make chamoions with enormous shield not oneshot people even with 1 of their ability dedicated to shielding.

cough ori cough

DemoGuide3/18/2017, 10:47:51 PM2 votes

Actually i believe shild durations should be nerfed. Game is at least twice as fast as it was upon release. CDR is now on every freaking item. And supports get 5 second shield duration on a 6 second cooldown. That's absurd.

Aimléss3/18/2017, 1:24:41 AM2 votes

I don't know about nerfing shields but I'd like to see an item with a passive that maybe does additional damage to shielded enemies, or allows a % of damage to penetrate shields. Would be an interesting concept, especially when going against a Riven or a Janna .

llIllIllIllIll3/18/2017, 11:24:48 PM1 votes

If it wasn't for those champions shields they would hardly be supports


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Kimmy K3/19/2017, 5:40:15 AM1 votes

A season or 2 ago, slows were changed so that if multiple slows hit a target, the strongest one would be the one that stayed and the rest wouldn't stack. Same thing should apply to shields.

Hige3/19/2017, 5:47:22 AM1 votes

O.o the counter to shield stacking is %hp dmg, shields count as HP

Meowing Mango3/17/2017, 9:28:25 PM1 votes

I think the game is long overdue for an item with an effect that deals bonus damage to shields.

raffyroad5/29/2017, 4:26:58 PM1 votes

For me, i counter the shield stacking meta by using another shield stacker, once the enemy support has used his locket or redemption, while you still have your's, i think that's your advantage at the next team fight. Use your items at the right moment, I see a snowball heavy zed can take the advantage when he knows that you've used your locket or redemp, it's not about spamming, it's about timing, an assassin main must know his oppurtunity to shine, plus, what i know is you should prioritize the shielding supports, because when they are not there no one will be able to protect the enemy team, this is from start why many people says that the kill lane counters the shield stackers, once soraka etc, is caught of guard,if they decided to protect themselves with locket and or redemp, you must stand back, unless you know his team is not there, you could wait the shield to run off then burst her down, a kill lane support such as thresh could also buy redemp and locket just to counter the shields, you have heavy cc to lockdown their support while protecting your own team.You Should focus fire their supports because focus firing their carries will take an eternity until you die This is the tank/assasin meta's counter, personally i counter them with a kill support lux with 1 AP item along with shielding items, this way you will snowball in your lane, and in late game your prepared, I dont prefer taking flat runes against this meta, scaling would be better to be prepared for late game, if you're having an early game comp, then go for flats, or even hybrids, the mistake in fighting shielding supports is poking them, they are just reducing your mana, you must burst them down quick so they can't react quick enough and so they can't extend the fight, and put the fight on there favor. Stun locking them would be great because while they're stunned they can't use any spells or items.The game turns on there favor when they start catching me off-guard. I counter sona easily with lux, because once the snare lands, that is when she's gone (Shhh.. im charging my laser.)

jama6553/18/2017, 12:32:05 AM1 votes

just bring sombra into league of legends boom

TotalJerk3/18/2017, 6:58:23 AM1 votes

Shields are probably the only form of survivability in the game that has no counter.

  • Health stacking? Percent max HP damage
  • Resistance stacking? Armor/magic penetration
  • Healing? Grievous wounds
  • Percent damage reduction? True damage

Shields have no answer other than either tearing through them or waiting.

FantasySniper3/18/2017, 8:20:00 AM1 votes

There should probably be a form of damage that pierces shields, or an item active that accomplishes just that within a small time frame.

LordOfTheLeague3/18/2017, 10:38:24 AM1 votes

What bother me with shields is that they are often point and click, instand and last for years.

YumaS2Astral3/18/2017, 3:40:19 PM1 votes

On my opinion true damage should bypass shields. It already bypass damage reduction.

Lock On3/18/2017, 3:42:59 PM1 votes

Ignite and other burning abilities should bypass shield.

Sassmast3r3/18/2017, 5:12:41 PM1 votes

As a Karma main, I think there are plenty of ways to go about this issue, and Riot hasn't tried any.

  1. Like you said, Grievous Wounds affecting shields would be awesome. I can't see how that would go wrong frankly, and it might even discourage true midlaners like Karma from being played in the support role. Being that I main support Karma, this would make me sad, but honestly, I think she is one of few champions that simply cannot be a hybrid; there's always an issue with her whenever they attempt to make her work in two roles equally well; one role she destroys, and the other she's completely obsolete in.

  2. If we look at why this has become such an issue in the first place, it isn't the shields themselves; it's the accessibility of CDR. I can get 45% CDR with Karma/Nami/Janna/Lulu before I even own a pair of boots. Buy Athene's, along with Frost Queen's Claim and an Ardent Censer, and now not only are my shields enhanced, but also spammable. Then I can buy my ludicrously-fast mobility boots and now I can move from bottom to top in five seconds and shield my damn top laner. Either remove the sheer volume of CDR on all the items, or make CDR as a stat much more expensive.

  3. Though I may be a bit crazy with this point, is it possible Windspeaker's Blessing needs to be changed/nerfed? If we look at what this mastery does, it becomes clear to me that it's slightly overbearing: "Your heals and shields are 10% stronger. Additionally, your shields and heals on other allies increase their armor by 5-22 (based on level) and their magic resistance by half that amount for 3 seconds." Why wouldn't every player want to get as much CDR as early as possible if it means that they can increase the stats of all their allies, and have incredibly strong shields/heals? Perhaps this one isn't the issue, but I would argue there's a bit too much hidden power in Windspeaker's.

  4. In typical Riot fashion, instead of acknowledging the problem, we could technically buff tanks so that shield/heal supports are removed from the game almost entirely. I remember back in season 5, when Vayne and Thresh were literally the only two champions played in botlane under any circumstance; those were the days... I don't play tanks at all, however, so I'm not sure what could be done to fix them, but I'm sure Riot could find a way.

Ralanr3/18/2017, 5:57:23 PM1 votes

Sion does not need to get his best tanking ability nerfed.

Sadistic Veigar3/18/2017, 6:52:09 PM1 votes

Two of those champions already need nerfs for a start (Lulu and Ivern)

Dunno about shield comps being nerfed, though. They draft for it.

normie sIayer3/18/2017, 11:15:20 PM1 votes

yes