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Should we get rid of the secondary role?

LordDoom·2/23/2016, 2:02:41 PM·3 votes·1,156 views

Big fan of League but I don't get this secondary role. I've designed a few games and know that games are about choice. I've spent many, many hours getting ready to play ranked as a jungle. My first season of ranked. TBH, I'm not that good at switching roles or champs. Just the way I'm wired. Why can't I just play jungle? If I go jungle support, guess what I get. I have no interest in a secondary role. From what I've read, I'll get 90% sup. My first game was sup then dodge then sup. How is that a choice? Now what I have to go practice sup for 40 hours? Or I do something like take jung / mid and hope I never get mid?

  • When I play any other pvp games, I get to choose my class/champion.

  • In LCS, the pros almost always specialize in a role. Crumbz plays jungle.

  • Games are about choice.

I quit playing wow because the developers got very disconnected from how the players played. For example, in wow it took years before there was any semblance of guild controls and dungeon match making. They also left tons of bugs in pvp. In league, there is this weird who can type fastest to get a role in normals. Now the ranked games the least favored role gets filled. From the riot posts, they don't seem to track how many times you get stuck into your secondary role. Like I could see if the systems goal was 80%. But my understanding is each queue is unique and will have the same outcome.

Anyway, here is a vote for getting rid of secondary roles and fixing the normal system.

10 Comments

ElysMustache2/23/2016, 2:04:21 PM1 votes

Try duoing with a support player.

Apocyliptic2/23/2016, 2:04:59 PM1 votes

They should just replace Blind Pick with Teambuilder, but removing the secondary role in Dynamic que isn't viable unless you want unbelievably long que times, even for low elo, God knows what higher elos would have to deal with.

Blind pick does nothing but screw one teammate over most of the time and breeds toxicity with its auto locking bullshit. It should have been removed and replaced with teambuilder a LONG time ago. Now is especially one of the best times to do it.

I NEVER play Blind pick anymore and I pity the poor souls who still do.

LostFr0st2/23/2016, 2:09:38 PM1 votes

There is something you could try: Queue up as Jungle/mid.
You'll mostly get jungle or at least you'll have a high chance at trading with someone in champ select by asking nicely to trade roles.
If you get mid and they don't want to trade you'll have to deal with it though; be nice to them regardless.

SeekerofSilence2/23/2016, 2:12:43 PM1 votes

For a one-trick pony like myself: Yes please!

However, I don't think it'll be healthy for the game to promote that kind of play.

Titanium702/23/2016, 2:26:42 PM1 votes

God forbidd those times people actually had to play 4-5 roles.....

It's a game with tons of different players meeting each other, building 5v5 teams - do you really believe ths can work without some compromises??? Do you really think those LCS pros are uncapeable of paying other roles if needed? We all started that way, go into ranked write the position you feel the best in and hope noone else with the preference picks before you do. Period.

This 2 Role DynamicQ is lightyear-step towards people like you, AND YOU'RE STILL COMPLAINING! D: I really miss those times when you could get every single role in the game. Now you're sitting their waiting 5 minutes for a game.. do you really want to increase this to 15minutes just to ignore 80% of the Game you're playing?

If your answer is yes - maybe you should look for another game... you know a MMO for example, make our favorite class and play it forever.

Who Fed Ahri2/23/2016, 4:25:33 PM1 votes

you cant only select one role unless your in a 5s. The Q timers would be too long if you could. Sorry mate

LordDoom2/24/2016, 1:27:15 PM1 votes

So still testing the jung / sup. Now I'm at 2 jungle out of 8 games. I will keep posting as the sample size gets bigger. I'm doing the testing in normal draft. I thought there were millions of people playing. Getting 7+ minute queues.

warpenguin5552/24/2016, 1:28:38 PM1 votes

i love the second role, but there should be an option to ignore it and just have 1 role to queue with