Xayah and Rakan Nerf/Buff

Hollister··3 votes·6,483 views

Let's be real... Xayah and Rakan are a cute couple but what ive noticed , is that xayah dominates early game and does way too much damage

I suggest reduce xayah's early game damage and increase the late game damage on abilities and lower her attack damage stat by 1 .

Just buff rakan bc his E is basically useless without xayah

18 Comments

PureSilvrr3 votes

Rakan is fine

Poske1 votes

he is actually pick or ban in chall high elo midlane

Not fine..

Xayah is at the similar state

Ben Sharpio2 votes

Buff rakan? wtf that champion is stupidly annoying to play against

Sexy Fiora1 votes

Xayah E is broken.

And i agree Rakan is so useless with that short range on E when Xayah is not around. The problem is that Xayah and Rakan are not even a good bottom lane together. Rakan needs to have longer range on E when using it on anyone.

Primaquarius1 votes

Technically ADCs in all forms are supposed to have burst potential at some point in the game

Ark Sorcerer3 votes

No. Marksmen are DPS-- damage per second. Burst is not in a class description with DPS. I mean yeah sure, you can have a champion that defines themselves like Quinn being a burst marksmen but otherwise no. Marksmen are not suppose to have burst.

SuperShadow391 votes

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Muzét1 votes

Xayah's E isn't broken. Like it's a play wher eyou have to position yourself far from her or on the side. How many times I saw people going straight to a Xayah who just needed to press E and they're like "WTF ??? - Bro you killed yourself quite literally.

I would prefer that the range was equal for everyone (a bit less than current range for Xayah) but on Xayah it increases greatly (twice the initial amount) or so.

Psyrix1 votes

Rakan is far from useless, his e range to normal champs is fine, u just need to get used to not using Xayah as a crutch and make smart judgments with him.

ModAttysu The Poro1 votes

As a person who after sucking at Xayah for weeks is finally going 17/8 as her etc, the thing I've noticed is that I get a lot of my early kills by the enemy team positioning poorly (aka, right in-between me and my feathers.) You can't underestimate Xayah, or she'll destroy you. As for later in the game, she's amazingly good in teamfights, but with a super lack of mobility, very easy to shut down without good peel.

PS: Everytime I go against a Xayah, I don't think I've actually lost in lane to one yet. Maybe the game due to scaling, but in the laning phase no I don't think. Maybe once?

SuperShadow391 votes

Nope....

Xayah should not be nerfed. You have to learn her or you will suck at her.... You have to be brain-dead to say she is broken. And her E maybe needs a little nerf. But just a little

Scary Door1 votes

{quoted} Just buff rakan bc his E is basically useless without xayah

Rakan is (conditionally) overpowered.

There, I said it. The reason that he doesn't have a massive winrate is simply because he is very team reliant. Rakan is amazing in premade groups or even in a duo-lane with communication. In soloqueue he will always be very mediocre.

People think I'm trolling when I say that Rakan has the potential to be the number one support in League, but I'm quite serious. He has amazing AP scaling on both damage, healing and shielding abilities, he has good initiation and mobility, safety/escape and a charm that also does decent damage. He can be built as an AP Bruiser support, full tank or lean more toward damage and be equally effective depending upon team comp. Rakan is extremely powerful, but is gated far more than other supports by skill.

You can take it to the bank that Rakan will be nerfed sometime down the road when he becomes a favored pick in LCS or as more and more duo-partners pick him. It won't happen anytime soon, but a few months from now you will see "nerf Rakan" threads on the boards.

BroLane1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scary Door,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0qRBfviQ,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-28T14:44:31.551+0000)

People think I'm trolling when I say that Rakan has the potential to be the number one support in League, but I'm quite serious.

No. I don't want that.

Buff Thresh

Scary Door1 votes

{quoted}

No. I don't want that.

Buff Thresh

Nice thread necro there.

BroLane1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scary Door,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0qRBfviQ,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2018-03-22T17:19:20.919+0000)

Nice thread necro there.

Bro i didnt realize it was a dead thread it was bumped before i got here :(

alkamlBan1 votes

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Let's be real... Xayah and Rakan are a cute couple but what ive noticed , is that xayah dominates early game and does way too much damage

I suggest reduce xayah's early game damage and increase the late game damage on abilities and lower her attack damage stat by 1 .

Just buff rakan bc his E is basically useless without xayah

Thing is both of them are mediocre against a similarly lvled opponent and are alone. Just like Scary Door said he is mediocre alone which is ok. But when the two are together and they get free bonuses they just dominate the lane unless their brains are made of butter. Thing is when you have 2 champs with built in synergy having them together on a team makes both more powerful. So here are the possibilities:

  1. Bad alone -> Good together
  2. Bad alone -> Mediocre together
  3. Mediocre alone -> Good together
  4. Good alone -> Grear together

As you can see riot would either make them play poorly alone which would force people to play duos so options 1 and 2 are off the table or make them good individually and op together which is op OR you make them playable alone and good together. Thing is when together due to the bonuses they get they are much harder to fight against even when the enemy players are not that good themselves. And THAT is where their problem lies. Their synergy is a great thing to have in-game and could be expanded to other champs in the future but we must look back at those two and learn that making a duo with built in synergy might not be great idea unless they are balanced (both individually and together) properly.

c0nman461 votes

Rakans e is fine, but the damage and heal from his q need to be buffed. I recommend adding more ap scaling or allow the heal to trigure for less health when it hits a minion.

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