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Squidgy02··3 votes·465 views

Hi there, I have been playing League of Legends for a while now and I just can't seem to get good at playing any champion or lane (or jungle). My average rank in a game is usually a D or D+ and I'm just not sure how to change that. I simply want to be good at at least one champion, I have tried many different champions, I have gone in the practice mode, I play ARAM often, I play bots, I play PVP, I watch guides, I listen to other players and no matter what I try, I just can't seem to get very good at any champion. I really need some help, I'm sick of getting D or D+ ranks whilst my friends get anywhere from B's to S's. (they are the same level as me so it's not like i'm getting paired up with super high level players). I can't put it down to practice because I have played for quite a while and I have tried practising one champion and role at a time which doesn't work and I have also tried practising many different champions and roles at a time which again, doesn't work. I understand this is a broad question but I genuinely don't know what to do... so how do I get good?

For the most part, I am trying to get better at: Kha'Zhix Jungle Khazix Fizz Mid Fizz Taric Support Taric

And I would like to experiment with:

Jinx Jinx Ziggs Ziggs And Yasuo Yasuo

(I am very interested in playing Ziggs, however I have not gotten the chance to try him out)

Feel free to stalk my account (Squidgy02) to give me any help you can

Thanks! Squidgy02

8 Comments

Tessel81 votes

A key part is to start simple. A basic outline is this.

  1. Learn what your champ can do
  2. Learn how your lane works
  3. Learn how to play your lane
  4. Learn how to win the game

In general, it starts very specific and grows very broad. I'll break down each step for you.

  1. Learn what your champion can do.

This is the easiest to figure out. Riot gives you descriptions, patterns, numbers, training modes. EVERYTHING you could need to learn a champion. It doesn't really matter the difficulty of the champion as you can take as much time as you need to learn it. Note, however, the harder the champion is, the longer you might need to get the hang of it.

For the sake of simplicity, I'll use Ziggs as my example.

Ziggs is an artillery mage. This means mainly uses his abilities from a long range. He scales with ability power and deals magic damage. His passive enhances his autoattack with bonus magic damage based on your AP. His Q throws a bouncing bomb that explodes on the first enemy hit dealing magic damage based on your AP. His W throws a satchel charge on the ground that will detonate after a few seconds or if you recast it. It deals magic damage based on your AP and knocks back enemies or launches you away from the charge. It can also execute towers. His E deploys a minefield that deals magic damage based on your AP to any enemy that walks over it. His R is a long range bomb that deals magic damage based on your AP, dealing increased damage to enemies in the center.

Riot tells you all of this. You can practice using his abilities in practice modes. You can also practice other mechanics with him. Such as using his Q ability while in the air from you W charge. You can learn ability ranges and relative damage outputs. You can also learn about your weaknesses. His main issue is his lack of mobility. Without your satchel charge, you have no escape.

Now that you know what Ziggs does, let's look at what your lane does.

  1. Learn how your lane works.

Mid lane is generally where Ziggs would go. Mid is the center of the map and is just as important as it would sound. The mid lane can easily set the pace of the game. The goal of midlane is to either get an advantage and then roam and give that advantage to you teammates to get them ahead OR to farm and grow strong to shine in the late game.

Ziggs is the first. Ziggs is best at grinding down champions and towers using his abilities and then going to side lanes and doing the same thing. With this in mind, you can move tot he next point.

  1. Learn how to play your lane.

Because you are highly immobile, you generally play safer. Based on the matchup, you may or may not have a winning lane. If you have a winning lane, you can play more forward and apply damage whenever the opponent tries to farm. Ziggs is best at whittling down his opponents rather than all-ining at once. This means you just need to keep harassing the enemy until they leave or die. You can then place vision for you jungler to play more around you.

If you do not having a winning lane, you must play very safe. You have to play back so that the enemy cant kill you. You must also be sure to place defensive vision so that you can still safely farm.

After figuring out how you can win/survive your lane, you can figure out how to win the game.

  1. Learn how to win the game.

This seems like a pretty obvious question. Clearly, you just destroy the nexus. Easy Peasy. The trick, however, is learning the EASIEST and BEST ways for YOU to win.

Ziggs is good at poking enemies down and destroying towers. So, you can setup good sieges with your team and poke the enemy down until they must forfeit their tower. He also has good wave clear and can defend towers very easily. You can simply slow push down towers or stall out games until you and your team reach item breakpoints and/or win better fights.

I really hope this helps! Please ask any questions you may have and I'll be happy to answer as soon as i can![sg-ahri-2]

Also, sorry this turned into a wall of text..

Squidgy022 votes

Thank you so much, I don't think anyone could have answered this question better, thank you for taking the time to explain everything in detail as for example if you just said "artillery mage" (in the 1st step) I wouldn't have understood. I wasn't expecting such a good answer as it is a hard thing to well... answer. Now I understand that I need to go back to step 1 on every champion because if you asked me do i know what fizz could do i would have said yes, however after reading your response, i would say that i need to go back and look at his passives and his strengths etc, the same with kha zix. So thank you so much and i have no doubt this will improve my playing. As stupid as it sounds, I am excited to get better and not do so badly. I only have one question, which is where can i find if my lane is a winning lane or a losing lane (I know its not in the actual game) because i have found that when i am fizz mid paired with a lux, I do not do very well. But yeah is there a website or something that I can find out winning/losing lanes for champions? :D Thank you so much again for putting the time in to making a long detailed post!

Tessel81 votes

It's my pleasure! I'm always willing to help!

Now, to learn more about match ups, you can go to lolcounter.com. This will give a general sense of how different match ups can go.

It is very important to realize that this is simply VERY GENERAL match ups. This doesn't you instantly win or lose lane. It simply means you either have a better or worse chance to win or lose lane. If you have a favorable match up, then you are more likely to win the lane. If you have an unfavoable match up, you are less likely to win the lane.

If you have great knowledge and prowess on your champion, you can easily win any match up.

As an example, my first real main was Zyra mid, before her rework. After a few months of pretty much ONLY playing Zyra, I could win any match up i was put in. I still have a 100% win rate against Fizz as Zyra (and many people who can back that up). I could win against Syndra, Orianna, Cassiopia, anyone.

Now, when studying match ups, it's important to know that you can only learn so much from reading about it. The best way to learn a match up is to just play it out. You may lose a bit, but as long as you learn from it, it's worth it.

As a little side note as well, you should keep an eye on your team comps, especially junglers. If they have an aggressive jungler, you may get ganked a lot, especially if you apply lots of pressure in your lane.

If you'd like a little more insight on lane pressure, you can check out this other comment i posted on the boards here https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/wkAJgPdG-laning-phase-and-positioning-question

I hope this helps and again, feel free to ask any more questions and I'll gladly help out! [sg-ahri-2]

Squidgy021 votes

Hi again, thanks! appreciate the help! Um I have been practising and this has helped A LOT!!!! I'm playing so much better. I have been watching some ziggs game play because I now am maining ziggs mid and I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmdNvJfjxQI&t=251s I know this is kind of irrelevant to the question but I was really curious at how he was doing so much damage towards the middle of the game. I'm not entirely sure if it is his items or possibly his masteries or runes (although he does not show those in his video) I have been grinding through level 19 so that I could get runes and I finally hit level 20 however I have not bought any runes because riot are doing something with them.....? Anyways, yeah I was wondering how he was doing so much damage as I would like to learn how to play ziggs a bit more aggressively. When I play him, which is most of the time, I don't seem to be able to do much damage all at once however I chip away at them, accordingly because of the way im playing, I am fairly useless in team fights. Even at chipping away at people though, he is doing much more damage with his abilities than I do when i play ziggs. So yeah, I dont know if you could really answer this but yeah! Thanks so much again!

Tessel81 votes

Masteries and Runes will help a little bit, but most of hos output was from his items. He had slightly over 300 AP near the end of the game as well as his Sorcerer's shoes, which give Magic Penetration (Magic Penetration negates Magic resist by a 1-1 scale, meaning his Sorcerer's Shoes, which give 15 Magic Pen, negate 15 Magic resist on his target when using magic damage abilities.

As for runes, you might as well buy some since their heavily discounted and the preseason changes won't take them away for another couple patches. You can look up a standard Ziggs rune page and just run off of that.

As for aggressive play for ziggs, a simple thing to do would be to put your E down on/in front of an enemy to slow them down so that its is easier to land your Q and W. Combining your Ult with your team's crowd control can also greatly help you land more enemies in the center to deal bonus damage.

Once again, I hope this helps! Just ring me up again if you need anything else![sg-ahri-2]

Squidgy021 votes

Sorry to be a pain but would you mind looking at a few of my last games in summoners rift to see what the hell I'm doing wrong? I am actually getting super frustrated and annoyed because my friends are going on their smurfs because they say ill feed lvl 30's and lose them the game and they always flame me for doing badly when i do badly when i have an extremely bad match up like yasuo zed or katarina My summoners profile is Squidgy02. I also know im doing something wrong because apparently as ziggs i am supposed to be getting the most damage on the team however i dont get much at all. I'm getting super fed up with being absolutely crap at the game and my friends telling me im feeding and that everythings my fudging fault. Sorry again.

Tessel81 votes

OK, so I can't see a whole lot of info from the OP.GG source, but the biggest thing right off the bat is your build.

There is NO reason for you to build Athene's Unholy Grail. This item is useless for ziggs. This is absolutely gutting your damage. Instead, you should probably go for a Morellonomicon or Luden's Echo first. You should have a Morellonomicon AND Ludens Echo as your first 2 items basically every game. After that go for a Death cap or Void Staff depending on the enemy team.

As for the bad matchups, you'll just get used to them over time. It's also important to know WHEN to pick Ziggs. You should have another champ or 2 in your wheel house so that if the enemy chooses a Ziggs counter, you aren't forced to play it.

Other than that, I can't tell much without physically seeing the game.

I hope this helps you out! Message again if you need anything else![sg-ahri-2]

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